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 Post subject: White Wolf Aniu? Balto's mom? "MYSTERY" SOLVED
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:12 am 
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We all wonder is the white wolf in balto 1 is aniu and Balto's mom, well I got tired of wondering and looked in the movies, I found evidence that the white wolf in B2 is indeed the white wolf from Balto 2 and is Balto's mom, now I have solid proof. and here it is.

First of all I'll start off with some quotes, some images and more...

First Quotes. B1

Link: http://media.putfile.com/steelesmessage

Steele: I have a message for your mother *Howls*
Tells us: Balto's mom is a wolf

B2 Quotes:

Link: http://media.putfile.com/Navasspech

Nava: Aniu, THE WHITE WOLF has come to me in dream vitions and told us what we must do.
Tell us: The white wolf is aniu.


Link: http://media.putfile.com/thejourneyhome

Aniu: now the journey home my son (she was talking to Balto)
Tells us: Aniu is Balto's mom


Link: http://media.putfile.com/Baltosmom

Balto: Aniu you are my mo---(aniu moves hed up and down meaning yes)
Tells us: Aniu really is Balto's mom

Link: http://media.putfile.com/Baltosconfetion

Balto: (when talking to Aleu about his mom) I remember she was as white as the snow and had this warm voice that made me feel safe.
Tells us: Balto's mom is a white wolf with a warm voice.

B3

A game Part.

everyone that has the Balto 3 dvd must have the ultimate challenge game in the dvd, in a part of the game they talk about the white wolf, and put an image of the white wolf from B1 and B2 togher while using the words white wolf for both wolfs.

Tells us: Both wolfs shown below are the same one. The circled wolf is the one from B1 and the other one from B2. But they are the same one just drawn different.
Link: http://media.putfile.com/B3game

Game narrator: The white wolf is there to help you cross the bridge, each time you answear correctly the white wolf will help you rebuild a part of the bridge.
Tells us: The B2 looking wolf is the same one in B1
Game picture.

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Not best quality but there it is. ^^

so with all this tells us, we get

White wolf is aniu and the white wolf also known as aniu is Balto's mom.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:08 pm 
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Mmmmm I dont know. Honestly i do believe they are the same. A lot has been said to make them seem both same and different. You may be right, but you could also be wrong, who knows

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I know there's a lot of solid proof but...I just hate to admit. see, the white wolf in B1 didn't say anything at all. so I think he/she cound't talk. he/she just howl.and since Balto howl with the white wolf then I think he can understand the meanings of wolf's howl. But Aniu said a lot. well, for me if they are suppose to be the same (which could be true) then why the animaters made Aniu talk? why not just howl? it will be even more spirital. if they did that I will be so sure they are the same even if they were drawn differently. :roll:

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Not to hurt, I don't think you have any proof.

Steele: I have a message for your mother *Howls*
Tells us: Balto's mom is a wolf
Objection: Had anyone this doubt?

Nava: Aniu, THE WHITE WOLF has come to me in dream vitions and told us what we must do.
Tell us: The white wolf is aniu.
Objection: Anybody who isn't blind can see that Aniu is a white wolf. But there isn't only one white wolf in the world and White Wolf isn't the name of the character.

Aniu: now the journey home my son (she was talking to Balto)
Tells us: Aniu is Balto's mom
Objection: Yes, so? The problem was if the White Wolf is Balto's mom.

Balto: Aniu you are my mo---(aniu moves hed up and down meaning yes)
Tells us: Aniu really is Balto's mom
Objection: idem

Balto: (when talking to Aleu about his mom) I remember she was as white as the snow and had this warm voice that made me feel safe.
Tells us: Balto's mom is a white wolf with a warm voice.
Objection: Why not to say that Steele is Balto's father because he said his dad is a husky?

The proof of the game.
Objection: In the same game Boris fly to show to Balto the street. And in the first film in the subtitles they confused the name of the three dogs (Nikki, Kaltag, Star). Moreover the creators who created the game aren't the same who made the film.

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Togo wrote:
I think everyone know that Aniu is Balto's mom, but the problem is: Is the White Wolf Aniu? There isn't any game in the Italian B2 DVD, so I can't say anything, but I don't think that the director of the movies made the game too.
This doesn't mean that I don't think Aniu is the WW, I only say that it could not be.

No game?? :shock: ..heheheh..the romanian one has.. :lol:
altough..we have seen many articles and topics about prooving that Aniu is the White Wolf... :?

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Steele is a Malamute so He can't be Balto's Father :wink:


Oh, you're right. I forgot.

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Personally and I know I've said this many times before, I think that the white wolf in Balto I was just a random wolf who helped Balto along on his journey.


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F-As-Balto wrote:
Not to hurt, I don't think you have any proof.

Steele: I have a message for your mother *Howls*
Tells us: Balto's mom is a wolf
Objection: Had anyone this doubt?

Nava: Aniu, THE WHITE WOLF has come to me in dream vitions and told us what we must do.
Tell us: The white wolf is aniu.
Objection: Anybody who isn't blind can see that Aniu is a white wolf. But there isn't only one white wolf in the world and White Wolf isn't the name of the character.

Aniu: now the journey home my son (she was talking to Balto)
Tells us: Aniu is Balto's mom
Objection: Yes, so? The problem was if the White Wolf is Balto's mom.

Balto: Aniu you are my mo---(aniu moves hed up and down meaning yes)
Tells us: Aniu really is Balto's mom
Objection: idem

Balto: (when talking to Aleu about his mom) I remember she was as white as the snow and had this warm voice that made me feel safe.
Tells us: Balto's mom is a white wolf with a warm voice.
Objection: Why not to say that Steele is Balto's father because he said his dad is a husky?

The proof of the game.
Objection: In the same game Boris fly to show to Balto the street. And in the first film in the subtitles they confused the name of the three dogs (Nikki, Kaltag, Star). Moreover the creators who created the game aren't the same who made the film.



You know what this is NOT an FBI CASE, The creators made the sequels more for kids, wich means that they just wouldn't have a character say something just because so quotes matter, so that a kid can really understand it, the movie was made easy for kids to understand we all agree that it was made for young public. so I don't think they would make all this trouble just make kids think, Aniu is the white wolf.
Pluss there are many white wolfs sure, but we only get to see ONE white wolf in Balto! I've had it, this is just ridiculus, there is enought evidence it was clear that the creators wanted to make aniu the white wolf, there is nothing so hard to understand in that unless someone doesn't want to understand. Heck.


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I've had it, this is just ridiculus, there is enought evidence it was clear that the creators wanted to make aniu the white wolf, there is nothing so hard to understand in that unless someone doesn't want to understand. Heck.


Okay, I can see where the creators wanted to make the white wolf, Aniu, but, the was the creators of Balto 2, not Balto 1. I'm pretty sure that the creators of Balto 1 used the white wolf as symbolizm, nothing more. I personaly think that making the white wolf Balto's mom takes away a lot of symbolizm from the white wolf scene, but hey, that's just my opinion.

I also want to add, that the white wolf in Balto 1 is nameless. "The White Wolf" is a fan name (I might be wrong, but I dought it since in the movie, he/she is never named), so just because Aniu is called "The White Wolf", doesn't mean that it's a referance to Balto 1.

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I've had it, this is just ridiculus, there is enought evidence it was clear that the creators wanted to make aniu the white wolf, there is nothing so hard to understand in that unless someone doesn't want to understand. Heck.


Okay, I can see where the creators wanted to make the white wolf, Aniu, but, the was the creators of Balto 2, not Balto 1. I'm pretty sure that the creators of Balto 1 used the white wolf as symbolizm, nothing more. I personaly think that making the white wolf Balto's mom takes away a lot of symbolizm from the white wolf scene, but hey, that's just my opinion.

I also want to add, that the white wolf in Balto 1 is nameless. "The White Wolf" is a fan name (I might be wrong, but I dought it since in the movie, he/she is never named), so just because Aniu is called "The White Wolf", doesn't mean that it's a referance to Balto 1.



Ah crap, here we go again, the white wolf was more symblysim and B2 creators changed that, but let's have in mind that there was only one white wolf ine Balto 1, so I don't think that the creators would just make nava talk about a completely different white wolf, pluss that is probably the name everyone called the wolf until "aniu" came along.
There are a lot of white wolfs in the world but this isn't rocket science, every balto fan here knows that the white wolf from B1 is just called the white wolf, there are lot of white wolfs in the world but only one in B1, so B2 which was even more focused on young public would't make it so hard to understand that,
"Aniu the white wolf" *stops* let's see Nava talking about a legendary white wolf in a Balto movie when so far we have only see one white wolf in Balto, let's see what wolf is he refering to? oh I know the one that howled with Balto when he falls off the cliff! oh wait there is more so that wolf is named aniu, Is that easy. most of the people here are over 10 so that is just soooo easy to catch, don't make this difficult because it's not.


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Okay, relax. Your attitude is really not apreciated, at least I don't apreciate it. I would like to be able to state my opinions and actualy have them heard, not shot down and insulted. Maybe this topic isn't so simple and easy to understand as you think, or maybe I'm just stupid, I don't know, but either way, you could show us all a little more respect. In case you didn't notice, at the start of my last post, I actualy agreed with you on how the creators of Balto 2 wanted to make the White Wolf into Aniu. I listened to what you had to say, I would like you to give me that same respect.

and yes, I'll admit that my arguement about the white wolf being named was pretty bad evidence, and wasn't well thought out. It was a pretty crapy argument, I admit.

Anyways, I don't think I made my opinion very understandable, so I'll try again. In it's most basic form, I'll I'm trying to say is that the creators of Balto 1 and 2 are different, and so even though the creators of balto made the White Wolf into Aniu, the creators are different, and so the characters are different. I just don't belive the white wolf of Balto 1 was meant to be Balto's mother, and so I also belive you can't take someone elses character and make it into something that it's creators didn't make it. So even though they tried to make the WhiteWolf into Aniu, Aniu just wouldn't be the White Wolf because that's not the white wolf that the creators of Balto 1 created. Aniu is more a white wolf of Balto 1 created or morphed by the creators of Balto 2. And so there are two different creators, creating two different characters.

There, does that make any more sense or am I just getting more confusing?

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Silver Snow wrote:
F-As-Balto wrote:
Not to hurt, I don't think you have any proof.

Steele: I have a message for your mother *Howls*
Tells us: Balto's mom is a wolf
Objection: Had anyone this doubt?

Nava: Aniu, THE WHITE WOLF has come to me in dream vitions and told us what we must do.
Tell us: The white wolf is aniu.
Objection: Anybody who isn't blind can see that Aniu is a white wolf. But there isn't only one white wolf in the world and White Wolf isn't the name of the character.

Aniu: now the journey home my son (she was talking to Balto)
Tells us: Aniu is Balto's mom
Objection: Yes, so? The problem was if the White Wolf is Balto's mom.

Balto: Aniu you are my mo---(aniu moves hed up and down meaning yes)
Tells us: Aniu really is Balto's mom
Objection: idem

Balto: (when talking to Aleu about his mom) I remember she was as white as the snow and had this warm voice that made me feel safe.
Tells us: Balto's mom is a white wolf with a warm voice.
Objection: Why not to say that Steele is Balto's father because he said his dad is a husky?

The proof of the game.
Objection: In the same game Boris fly to show to Balto the street. And in the first film in the subtitles they confused the name of the three dogs (Nikki, Kaltag, Star). Moreover the creators who created the game aren't the same who made the film.



You know what this is NOT an FBI CASE, The creators made the sequels more for kids, wich means that they just wouldn't have a character say something just because so quotes matter, so that a kid can really understand it, the movie was made easy for kids to understand we all agree that it was made for young public. so I don't think they would make all this trouble just make kids think, Aniu is the white wolf.
Pluss there are many white wolfs sure, but we only get to see ONE white wolf in Balto! I've had it, this is just ridiculus, there is enought evidence it was clear that the creators wanted to make aniu the white wolf, there is nothing so hard to understand in that unless someone doesn't want to understand. Heck.


Hey, you started this topic saying: "I have the proof!!!" and now that someone confutes them you say this is not a FBI case!?!
About "it was made for young public", I'm sure that few of us aren't young public, otherwise we'd stop to talk about the White Wolf and we'd start to talk about the themes.
Moreover this isn't a proof, because they draw Aniu as the White Wolf, if they want to show that they are the same. I'm sure that "the young public" understand better. (I'm sorry, I used only the present, but I'm not very good in English).
And don' forget that when they made the first film, no one thought of a sequel. So when they made the first film, they didn't want that the White Wolf is Balto's mother, because nothing says to us that.
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Pluss there are many white wolfs sure, but we only get to see ONE white wolf in Balto!

Actually there are two white wolves, Aniu and the White Wolf. lol

To conclude I like discussions, but I'm not sure that you like them. If you want discuss, don't be angry and answer the objections.

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