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Byanca Moureen
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Post subject: Re: Steele's death Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:28 am |
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Yeah, I have seen this too! And it's very dark. I saw this yesterday and my reaction: "What a... Why did they cut this?". Seriously. Just why? However, I can't understand what is it -- accident or suicide. I wanted to write about this, you did it faster. 
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Acanis
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Post subject: Re: Steele's death Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:37 am |
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Marroah wrote: Yeah, I have seen this too! And it's very dark. I saw this yesterday and my reaction: "What a... Why did they cut this?". Seriously. Just why? However, I can't understand what is it -- accident or suicide. I wanted to write about this, you did it faster.  I'd suggest accident. In my mind what happens is Steele doesn't want to give up the golden collar which should symbolise achievement but instead it represents his ego. The ensuing struggle results in him getting snagged by the very thing that he doesn't want to let go of which ultimately causes his downfall.
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Byanca Moureen
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Post subject: Re: Steele's death Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:47 am |
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Thank you. I assumed this. And, I'm sure that Steele died. However, I can not understand where he fell (it's a hatch or something like this). But in any case, Steele dies from asphyxiation and fractures of the bones (possibly buried alive). I do not think that someone will survive after this. And, yeah, I heartily thank those people who puts such great storyboards. I even more deeply understand the story.
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HolyFox77
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Post subject: Re: Steele's death Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:01 pm |
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That's dark. Wow can't believe they actually made storyboards of Steele dying  That would explain why he wasn't in the sequels. Though it is understandable since they didn't want to show kids something dark like that. Granted I do wish that they put in the scene where Star tore off Steele's collar.
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Mighty
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Post subject: Re: Steele's death Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:18 am |
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Steele was never apart of Balto III. Phil did have an idea of adding Steele, though it never went any further. Here's what Phil said during an interview in 2011: "So, no it was never written there. My thought was, here they are—I’m just going to repeat basically the same thing as is on your forums—that Balto says, I’m going to try and <ind this pilot. Pretty sure this guy’s crashed, and I’m going after it. And nobody wants to join him, right? Everyone’s still like, you’re on your own. This guy took our jobs away, and we’re not going to do it. And Balto’s going to do the right thing; he’s going to go out there. And I thought, how cool would it be, if in that point of the movie, Steele steps forwards, and says I’ll go."http://www.animationsource.org/balto/en ... &nump=4713
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Byanca Moureen
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Post subject: Re: Steele's death Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:51 am |
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Mightybalto1925 wrote: Steele was never apart of Balto III. Phil did have an idea of adding Steele, though it never went any further. Here's what Phil said during an interview in 2011: "So, no it was never written there. My thought was, here they are—I’m just going to repeat basically the same thing as is on your forums—that Balto says, I’m going to try and <ind this pilot. Pretty sure this guy’s crashed, and I’m going after it. And nobody wants to join him, right? Everyone’s still like, you’re on your own. This guy took our jobs away, and we’re not going to do it. And Balto’s going to do the right thing; he’s going to go out there. And I thought, how cool would it be, if in that point of the movie, Steele steps forwards, and says I’ll go."http://www.animationsource.org/balto/en ... &nump=4713Thanks, Mighty! Interesting information. I try to imagine Phil's reaction on Steele's death LOL But for me Steele is dead. I don't care that this scene was deleted. I just want to say, many people (fans of TLK) consider as a canon the deleted scene "The madness of king Scar" (where Scar wants Nala as his queen). Why can't we do the same? I mean, this scene shows Steele's fate. P.S. We saw much dark and cruel villain deaths. So, this scene isn't so dark. And it's Steele's fault in his death.
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Mighty
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Post subject: Re: Steele's death Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:28 am |
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Marroah wrote: Mightybalto1925 wrote: Steele was never apart of Balto III. Phil did have an idea of adding Steele, though it never went any further. Here's what Phil said during an interview in 2011: "So, no it was never written there. My thought was, here they are—I’m just going to repeat basically the same thing as is on your forums—that Balto says, I’m going to try and <ind this pilot. Pretty sure this guy’s crashed, and I’m going after it. And nobody wants to join him, right? Everyone’s still like, you’re on your own. This guy took our jobs away, and we’re not going to do it. And Balto’s going to do the right thing; he’s going to go out there. And I thought, how cool would it be, if in that point of the movie, Steele steps forwards, and says I’ll go."http://www.animationsource.org/balto/en ... &nump=4713Thanks, Mighty! Interesting information. I try to imagine Phil's reaction on Steele's death LOL :lol: But for me Steele is dead. I don't care that this scene was deleted. I just want to say, many people (fans of TLK) consider as a canon the deleted scene "The madness of king Scar" (where Scar wants Nala as his queen). Why can't we do the same? I mean, this scene shows Steele's fate. P.S. We saw much dark and cruel villain deaths. So, this scene isn't so dark. And it's Steele's fault in his death. Phil didn't work on the first film, only the sequels, so he wouldn't know about this deleted scene. Steele isn't dead... There's no indication in the ending of the film that Steele was killed. The only thing I can imagine that became of Steele is he lost a lot of respect, and possibly became an outcast. I don't exactly know what you're talking about regarding TLK2, but I don't see how it can be canon if a scene was deleted from a film. To me, if it isn't present in the film or books, etc, then it isn't canon.
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Byanca Moureen
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Post subject: Re: Steele's death Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:54 am |
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Mightybalto1925 wrote: Marroah wrote: Mightybalto1925 wrote: Steele was never apart of Balto III. Phil did have an idea of adding Steele, though it never went any further. Here's what Phil said during an interview in 2011: "So, no it was never written there. My thought was, here they are—I’m just going to repeat basically the same thing as is on your forums—that Balto says, I’m going to try and <ind this pilot. Pretty sure this guy’s crashed, and I’m going after it. And nobody wants to join him, right? Everyone’s still like, you’re on your own. This guy took our jobs away, and we’re not going to do it. And Balto’s going to do the right thing; he’s going to go out there. And I thought, how cool would it be, if in that point of the movie, Steele steps forwards, and says I’ll go."http://www.animationsource.org/balto/en ... &nump=4713Thanks, Mighty! Interesting information. I try to imagine Phil's reaction on Steele's death LOL But for me Steele is dead. I don't care that this scene was deleted. I just want to say, many people (fans of TLK) consider as a canon the deleted scene "The madness of king Scar" (where Scar wants Nala as his queen). Why can't we do the same? I mean, this scene shows Steele's fate. P.S. We saw much dark and cruel villain deaths. So, this scene isn't so dark. And it's Steele's fault in his death. Phil didn't work on the first film, only the sequels, so he wouldn't know about this deleted scene. Steele isn't dead... There's no indication in the ending of the film that Steele was killed. The only thing I can imagine that became of Steele is he lost a lot of respect, and possibly became an outcast. I don't exactly know what you're talking about regarding TLK2, but I don't see how it can be canon if a scene was deleted from a film. To me, if it isn't present in the film or books, etc, then it isn't canon. I know that Phil worked on sequels (I'm not stupid, how you think about me). Here is a joke (if he doesn't know about first film and its ideas, he creates different story). His reaction. In the end of the movie, Steele was "abanoned" (all forgot about him or something like this), but this scene perfectly finishes the story. Well, you have your own opinion, I have my own opinion. I prefer the original film and its ideas and materials.
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Post subject: Re: Steele's death Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:08 pm |
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Just out of curiosity, where did you find this, and I bet there are many more endings and deleted scenes for the big moments of the movie (White Wolf Scene for example).
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Post subject: Re: Steele's death Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:45 pm |
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There's a few more of them in this forum as well as on his website http://fluke.theicecave.org/main.shtml. I'd reccomend looking there for a lot of cool and highly informative stuff.
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HolyFox77
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Post subject: Re: Steele's death Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:28 am |
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While I will admit that what happened to Steele at the end of the first movie is somewhat underwhelming consider the things he did without showing guilt or remorse, I feel him dying would've been a bit too much.
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