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True, i am with ya but there is a problem, Chumvi was a cub when simba was. Zira would be a adult, I doubt Zira is a pedo, so it really couldn't be chumvi am i correct?

Well duh! They even said it in the movie Nuka said that Kovu isn't Scar's real son.

Actually, Kiara and Kovu are not related simply because the film says so. Well, kinda, by saying Scar is not Kovu's father.

There is no all that fanfiction mambo chambo needed for explanation. The film does it with five words: "Scar wasn't even his father" (by Nuka) and "he was not my father" (by Kovu himself.)

Scar having any kids whatsoever is nothing more but fanfiction and Chumvi isn't even from the movie universe but from some merchandise books inspired by the film and thus, technically, Zira couldn't have really had cubs with him.

ElChivato; I have edited the swearing from your post. This is a warning for swearing, please don't do it.

Just because Disney says Scar didn't have any kids doesn't make it true. How could he have ruled for two or three years without having an heir or heiress to the throne? You seriously believe that, El? And this is just a question, not an attack or anything. There is simply no logic in saying that Scar didn't have any kids. He's the King and he would have needed an heir. And just because Chumvi didn't exist in the movie universe, doesn't mean he didn't exist as whole. Surely Simba and Nala weren't the only cubs born in the Pridelands during Mufasa's rule.

Sorry for "the f word", I didn't notice at all. It won't happen again.



Lol. But of course it doesn't! Like, what do Scar's creators know about Scar? Certainly not the truth! [/sarcasm] (As in, it's not just Disney who said so, it was Scar's creators, the film makers themselves.)



Yes, I seriously believe that because it's a completely logical fact from Scar's creators. Scar INTENTED to make an heir as he indeed is a king and needs such, but he didn't have one. It's also entirely possible and entirely logical: perhaps Scar just didn't consider anyone worthy of being his mate and the mother of his child, until Nala grew up and he set his eye on her. Even if ignored the fact from Scar's creators that he didn't even think about making cubs before late at which point he tried to get Nala for his wife, we could also imagine he just did not succesfully mate with anyone during those years which by the way had to be at least 5 in number, judging by Simba's physical development.



And I never said Chumvi doesn't exist as whole. Just that as he doesn't exist in the movies, he can't officially be the father of anyone in the movies.

There's more to The Lion King Saga than just the movies.

The first part is correct.

Well, a-dur of course Kovu and Kiara aren't related [not offically and closely anyway]. Was that suposed to be a wake-up call for those people who just ignore the movie and say Scar is Kovu's father?, because it wasn't very clear to me.

[And no that wasn't a retonical question]

Well, a-dur of course Kovu and Kiara aren't related [not offically and closely anyway]. Was that suposed to be a wake-up call for those people who just ignore the movie and say Scar is Kovu's father?, because it wasn't very clear to me.

[And no that wasn't a retonical question]

If Kovu and Kiara were cousins, so what. They're lions.

@ brown wolf
the lion king saga is the movies.