Zira or Kiara

mouse101 · **Posted:** Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:03 am

You know when Zira and Kiara were dangling from the gorge, right. I want to know what you guys think. Who do you think was more stupid in that scene, Zira, for not taking Kiara's paw. Or Kiara, for trying to help her, when she knew that she was an evil outlander.

Roi Doberwolf · **Posted:** Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:07 pm

Phew... for a second there upon reading the title I thought this was going to be one of those 'who do you like better' topics.

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'Stupid' sounds a little harsh, but it's an interesting question.
Kiara really was risking her neck trying to help her, but considering her pride [and even Zira's now] had her back, I'd say Zira was the foolish one.
She had no where to go but down and drown, but she hesitated, and when she did try [or so it looked like it in the movie], it was to late. I say 'Zira'.

mouse101 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:41 am

Yeah. She was a fool, not acceoting a kind hearted persons help. She probably just wanted to be with Scar again.

Flutterby · **Posted:** Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:53 am

Ya, they were both not really thinking, but I mean, what can you really expect, its disney...

Roi Doberwolf · **Posted:** Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:59 am

^ Not necessarily that either of them were being stupid. Kiara's just a kindhearted person. Nothing wrong with that.
And I feel where Zira's coming from. It's hard to just let go of so much hate and trust an enemy right off the bat like that...

Brown Wolf · **Posted:** Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:29 pm

I agree Roi

ChingChongChi-Neez · **Posted:** Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:42 pm

I think I like Kiara.

Ziraa · **Posted:** Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:26 am

I have to say Zira was the foolish one, maybe Kiara was abit for trying, because if Zira had taken her paw I don't think Zira would have been all that forgiving even if Kiara had just saved her life and I think she would have still been hell-bent on taking over the Pridelands, for Scar. But I guess Kiara isn't the smartest Lion on TLK.

Troll Berserker · **Posted:** Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:54 pm

ChingChongChi-Neez wrote:

I think I like Kiara.

You didn't read that's the topic about, did you?

I think if Zira took her pride so seriously and didn't want any Pridelander to save her, she could at least trick Kiara and try to drag her off the cliff.
If you think about this posibility then I'd say Kiara did a very stupid move...

BALTOGIRL98 · **Posted:** Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:16 am

zira was stupid for not taking kiara's paw .

thelionkingfan234 · **Posted:** Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:59 pm

i agree with you

KageFireWolf · **Posted:** Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:47 am

They were both a bit stupid in my oppinion.

Zira; She was stupid because she was offered help, offered another choice and the chance to live but instead hesitated. In the moment that she hesitated, she was already slipping.. And when she finally decided to take Kiara's paw she fell. Also, wasn't she hellbent on destroying Simba? If she was about to fall and couldn't kill him, then she could have at least pulled his daughter down and crushed his heart and emotions. At least, if I were her that's what I would do... She was evil, she should have went out with an evil bang. I'm sorta not making sense am I? xD

Kiara; She was stupid for putting her life on the line for a traitorous outsider hellbent on killing Simba, Nala and herself. Zira could easily have pulled her down and she would have drowned as well.

However I don't really think either of them were 'stupid'. Zira was full of hatred for Simba and his family, and she was sad about Scar's death. I think if I were in her shoes, I would listen to my pride and ego and refuse help from the enemy as well.
Kiara was just being kind and she selflessly offered her enemy help even if it would mean her own life. In my oppinion that was a very brave move. A little naive, yes...But brave nonetheless.

Alicane · **Posted:** Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:08 pm

Kiara was naive to believing Zira would ever change... Good thing she fell!

mouse101 · **Posted:** Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:01 pm

KageFireWolf wrote:

They were both a bit stupid in my oppinion.

Zira; She was stupid because she was offered help, offered another choice and the chance to live but instead hesitated. In the moment that she hesitated, she was already slipping.. And when she finally decided to take Kiara's paw she fell. Also, wasn't she hellbent on destroying Simba? If she was about to fall and couldn't kill him, then she could have at least pulled his daughter down and crushed his heart and emotions. At least, if I were her that's what I would do... She was evil, she should have went out with an evil bang. I'm sorta not making sense am I? xD

Kiara; She was stupid for putting her life on the line for a traitorous outsider hellbent on killing Simba, Nala and herself. Zira could easily have pulled her down and she would have drowned as well.

However I don't really think either of them were 'stupid'. Zira was full of hatred for Simba and his family, and she was sad about Scar's death. I think if I were in her shoes, I would listen to my pride and ego and refuse help from the enemy as well.
Kiara was just being kind and she selflessly offered her enemy help even if it would mean her own life. In my oppinion that was a very brave move. A little naive, yes...But brave nonetheless.

Yeah, I agree.

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