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I have tried to remain neutral through this but I have had it with the drama and all this crap so heres my solution that I would implement if I was steet.


1. Because the mods have become divided over this issue whether they support Jersey or Togo. Here's the job of a mod, mods are to enforce the rules and be unbiased towards either parties and be objective in their decision making. All personal feelings and opinions are irrelevent. Have the mods of the offending parties told to either calm down or have them resign.

2. Jersey is not to be banned. He is to be given a stern warning never to raise this issue again and not so much breathe a word about it anywhere on the site or post a topic in the forums detailing his grievences. If he does he is to be permabanned without hesitation. The same should go for the mods who insist on continuing the conflict, if any such evidence is to arise.

3. All members of the Baltosource who have also become divided over this issue whether they support either sides or are neutral. Are to cease and desist mentioning the topic or bringing it up in discussion. Mods are to give a warning to cease said activities if they are to continue they are to ban the offending members on the spot. Length of the ban depends on the severity of the activity or discussion. See rules for clarification.

4. If any mods are to resign new ones are to be created from neutral individuals with no affiliations to either offending party. The rules of the Baltosource are to be changed to ensure compliance and to seal up any loopholes and leave no wiggle room for mis-intereptation.

5. Mods and Admins are to be made clear on what their job entails and the limits of said power.

6. All mods are to have access to all Source sites to ensure that the rules are followed and enforced with unbias.

7. If this fails to happen Baltosource should be shut down in order to avoid further conflict.

Frankly, I think the title of your topic belies "neutrality", and it is inappropriate using part of my member name. It is NOT a "Jersey Situation". You should have worded that differently.

And if you are talking about ME being given a stern warning about "never raising the topic again" (especially when I tried more times than I could count to stop it, using private e-mails and PMs to steet and to admins...to very little avail), that obligation and the consequences thereof should fall on EVERYONE. Or else it is one-sided grandstanding and prejudice. Pinning that on one person is ridiculous.

I think what is best needed right now is for people to actually stop talking about this. And I do not believe it would serve this site, or the members who had nothing to do with this (or have anything to do with other conflicts which do or don't involve either party or the supporters on either side) to see the site shut down over it.

A solution is simple:

1. The rules are enforced consistently, without exception, without favoritism.

2. When a conflict occurs, no fence-sitting or spreading around of the blame, by staffers, is to be tolerated. The actual party or parties are held responsible. And a fair and BALANCED resolution is reached, rather than the kind of one-sided and irresponsible actions which took place in the conflict which came about recently.

3. A set of updated rules are put in place by steet (and ONLY by steet), and are enforced by him (and ONLY him), which means he must take a more proactive role, as much as that may not be an enjoyable prospect to him. It's his site...and like on any site, the webmaster has an obligation to respond to things when they get as serious as this last conflict did, and treat all sides with fairness and IMPARTIALITY, and judge accordingly. That is even what so many resources on this site make evident when a conflict occurs...or help is needed. To contact the webmaster. I tried to do that repeatedly even in the early stages of the aforementioned conflict. Had he taken a more proactive role, it probably would not have gotten as far as it did. And yes, I acknowledge how busy he is. But you know what? We're ALL busy. Including those of us who are site webmasters (including webmasters of forums of various sizes). It doesn't change the overriding obligation of a webmaster to be proactive no matter how jaded he or she may become with the members thereof. (NOTE: AND THIS IS NOT, NOT, NOT A FLAME AGAINST STEET!)

Anything else is unnecessary and does a disservice to this site and its membership.

There's already a topic about all this.

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