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 Post subject: Use of [] should be okay
PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:45 pm 
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Today I was yelled at for using the word "" in the avi thread. I can understand if I wouldn't dropped the F-bomb or something. But "" c'mon. More or less in todays world that is not even considered a swear word. If you claim this sight is a PG sight, then the word " should be allowed. Because, I'm pretty sure "" is used in those movies, and yes I've seen it.

So personally I believe is an okay word to use, I'm not asking you that all swearing should be okay but allowing a very soft border swear to be used should be a-ok.

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 Post subject: Re: Use of ***** should be okay
PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:49 pm 
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I think the same. Everyone says "Oh, this is a kid's site, etc." But hey, guess what? In case anyone hasn't noticed... there are only teens and young adults on this site. At least that come on often. The smallest kid I've seen on here was 8 years old and they don't ever come on anymore. Us teens know all the swear words so what's the big whoop if a few like "" and "crap" were allowed? People even friggin' say "hell" is a bad word. >_>

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 Post subject: Re: Use of ***** should be okay
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As long as you're not swearing someone out with use of the word, I could care less. If you were using it in the "original" context, fine.

Dictionary meaning, excluding the swear version:

"–verb (used with object)
1. to declare (something) to be bad, unfit, invalid, or illegal.
2. to condemn as a failure: to ***** a play.
3. to bring condemnation upon; ruin.
4. to doom to eternal punishment or condemn to hell.
" Source

Now if there was a religious context thrown in there could easily be an issue, so that would also be out of the question. PG is "Parental Guidence [encouraged]," so parents (and the children) should expect some things of such nature.

And in today's world, a lot of swear words are considered "not a swear word," but that's open to interpretation. Also, the site is a "family website," not a children's website. It's made to be family friendly. (You don't see a bunch of swearing in WWE now, do you? That's family entertainment and it still maintains a respectful image.)


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 Post subject: Re: Use of ***** should be okay
PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:53 pm 
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Not EVERYONE is raised the way you were, I got whacked upside the head when I said it. ;) And for the only teens/adults, its a kid friendly site. Not everyone tells the truth about their age, and kids can see it.
Swearing isn't allowed. End of story.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:00 pm 
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Question: I understand where you are coming from but you hear these words every day and they're on tv. No matter what you can't keep somebody sheltered their whole life from a swear word. And if you don't like swear words than you don't have to use them. Do I swear often? I guess but I was brought up in a house hold where it didn't matter what I said. I was brought up in a more lenient house hold but in modern English these words are used everywhere even in childrens shows. Obviously I don't expect you to make every swear word okay but '' is not a bad one, not by any means. And like I said before if you don't like it, then you don't have to use it. You don't have to make it where everybody else can't because you don't like it.

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Question: I understand where you are coming from but you hear these words every day and they're on tv. .

Not everyone has TV, and not everyone's parents lets/let them watch stuff like that.
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English these words are used everywhere even in childrens shows
Like I said, everyone wasn't introduced/or isn't the same way everyone else is.
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You don't have to make it where everybody else can't because you don't like it.

You'll have to talk to steet, since he made the choice. And if he did, I'm sure there is a reason.
Until this is "cleared" up, its not allowed.

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 Post subject: Re: Use of [] should be okay
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Question: I understand where you are coming from but you hear these words every day and they're on tv. No matter what you can't keep somebody sheltered their whole life from a swear word. And if you don't like swear words than you don't have to use them. Do I swear often? I guess but I was brought up in a house hold where it didn't matter what I said. I was brought up in a more lenient house hold but in modern English these words are used everywhere even in childrens shows. Obviously I don't expect you to make every swear word okay but '*****' is not a bad one, not by any means. And like I said before if you don't like it, then you don't have to use it. You don't have to make it where everybody else can't because you don't like it.


It all depends on how the "d"word is used,eg=**** Yankee,but if it's against the
AS rules,then it should not be used here on AS.

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Question: I understand where you are coming from but you hear these words every day and they're on tv. .

Not everyone has TV, and not everyone's parents lets/let them watch stuff like that.
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English these words are used everywhere even in childrens shows
Like I said, everyone wasn't introduced/or isn't the same way everyone else is.
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You don't have to make it where everybody else can't because you don't like it.

You'll have to talk to steet, since he made the choice. And if he did, I'm sure there is a reason.
Until this is "cleared" up, its not allowed.


That's pretty much the point that needs to be made. The end all argument is: this is STEET'S website. He made it, he decides what goes on here and what doesn't. He really could decide to turn this into Barbie Source if he wanted to, and there wouldn't be a thing anyone could do about it other than complain or leave. So, since swearing is against the rules, and he makes up the rules, it makes it kind of pointless to debate about it, right or wrong. The internet is not a democracy and you don't always get your way. If you don't like it, you have several options open for you to chose.

1. You can obey the rules.
2. You can break the rules. You will suffer the repercussions.
3. You can leave.
4. You can complain about it (which is essentially what's going on here).
5. You can go and talk to the person in charge.

The only option that leads down the path to getting the rule changed is to take it up with the webmaster themselves. And, since this matter has been put before Steet before and he had explained that this rule will not change, I believe that pretty much makes this and open and shut case. The matter can be debated over day and night, but unless the person in charge makes a different decision, they're all essentially moot and invalid.

I'm not trying to be rude here, or step on anyone's toes - quite the opposite, in fact. Just trying to point out the obvious fact. This same argument has happened several times before.

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 Post subject: Re: Use of ***** should be okay
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Aniu Caelestis wrote:
That's pretty much the point that needs to be made. The end all argument is: this is STEET'S website. He made it, he decides what goes on here and what doesn't. He really could decide to turn this into Barbie Source if he wanted to, and there wouldn't be a thing anyone could do about it other than complain or leave. So, since swearing is against the rules, and he makes up the rules, it makes it kind of pointless to debate about it, right or wrong. The internet is not a democracy and you don't always get your way. If you don't like it, you have several options open for you to chose.

1. You can obey the rules.
2. You can break the rules. You will suffer the repercussions.
3. You can leave.
4. You can complain about it (which is essentially what's going on here).
5. You can go and talk to the person in charge.

The only option that leads down the path to getting the rule changed is to take it up with the webmaster themselves. And, since this matter has been put before Steet before and he had explained that this rule will not change, I believe that pretty much makes this and open and shut case. The matter can be debated over day and night, but unless the person in charge makes a different decision, they're all essentially moot and invalid.

I'm not trying to be rude here, or step on anyone's toes - quite the opposite, in fact. Just trying to point out the obvious fact. This same argument has happened several times before.

Pretty much the bullseye.
I'm editing out all of the swearing : No one else swear from here on out on this topic. But I'll leave this unlocked since it does have somewhat of a point.

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 Post subject: Re: Use of [] should be okay
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Great... now no one will even know what he's talking about because someone completely got rid of "the word". I just think it's stupid to obsess over the fact "a kid could see it" because, oh, guess what? There are no kids on here anyways and plus they're all gonna learn it eventually! Geez, it's just a silly word. And don't you guys go "oh you're a mod, you should be thinking different" cause NO. Just cause I'm a mod (and a minor one at that) doesn't mean I have to be like all the others and agree to everthing.

AJ, I suggest you go to steet bout this. Cause it looks like we ain't gonna get anywhere now that they censored it.

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I just think it's stupid to obsess over the fact "a kid could see it" because, oh, guess what? There are no kids on here anyways and plus they're all gonna learn it eventually! .

Thats right, they will learn it, but they shouldn't learn it here. And there IS kids on here, this is a family friendly site. I know I suggest this site to parents who want their kids to go on clean websites. ; )

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Great... now no one will even know what he's talking about because someone completely got rid of "the word". I just think it's stupid to obsess over the fact "a kid could see it" because, oh, guess what? There are no kids on here anyways and plus they're all gonna learn it eventually! Geez, it's just a silly word. And don't you guys go "oh you're a mod, you should be thinking different" cause NO. Just cause I'm a mod (and a minor one at that) doesn't mean I have to be like all the others and agree to everthing.

AJ, I suggest you go to steet bout this. Cause it looks like we ain't gonna get anywhere now that they censored it.


Yes, a kid could easily view it. But like I said on a similiar rant; it doesn't have to be here.
They may see it on the television and on other, less "friendly" sites...but we don't have to make that risk even greater. I mean, seriously. You guys are basically complaining that a kid could see the curse word. We all know that; you may even say them yourself. I'm not pointing fingers, its just a possibility. But once again, it doesn't have to be here.

This is a family website. No matter your complaints, it will remain so until steet decides to change the site's standards, like Aniu so wonderfully pointed out. So if you want to curse, do it somewhere else. It doesn't have to be around possible kids. You never know who your audience is; there could very well be 6-year-olds here.

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People, do you really feel such a big urge to swear? I mean, why? Because you want to show your friends you are SO cool? Well in my opinion, swearing doesn't make you cool. English is the language with most words in the entire world, use them to emphasize your point without bad words. Not only it will keep this site kid friendly, but it will also show you are a smart guy.


This is pretty much how I feel about this. Also I can't change the rules, it's been said before, but I'd just talk to steet if I were you WD.

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(You don't see a bunch of swearing in WWE now, do you? That's family entertainment and it still maintains a respectful image.)


A bit off topic, but swearing over there used to be frequent until it was toned down.

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Well, in my case, I sometimes cannot help it. Words just come out. Here on the net, it's hard to keep em back as well cause Im so used to it, but then I end up having to go back and edit it. Plus, you can't give much effect when you're mad at anyone, etc. It's the way I talk and emphasize things. Sorry if that's not how you talk, but that's how I do most of the time.

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