Animation Source Forums

=> Visit the Animation Source fansites!

Read the site rules!

All times are UTC - 6 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: IDEAS - "What-ifs"?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:23 pm 
Famous one
Famous one
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:40 pm
Posts: 1652
Location: Back at home in VA
Gender: Female



As a fan of the Balto films (and other fandoms, of course), I know that we wish that a character could do something else or end up making the other choice in a difficult decision . . .

Such as this example:
- What if Balto (movie series, not real life) was born as a normal dog and not a wolfdog? (I forgot who wrote this fic, but it was a good idea!)

Is there a situation in the Balto fandom (official characters please) that you wish could happen or that someone would write about? What could happen to them/him/her that would be obvious enough to show that the choice was a BIG mistake?



(Sorry, I'm just really curious to see what other fans/writers think about this sort of thing. MODS: if this belongs elsewhere, please move it. Thanks!)

- Juuchan17

_________________


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: IDEAS - "What-ifs"?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:29 am 
Animation Source is my home!
Animation Source is my home!
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2005 10:41 am
Posts: 3023
Balto 1 What Ifs

-Naturally, what if Balto was put on the team?
-What if Balto never made it out of the ice? Would Jenna try and save Rosie herself?
-What if Steele and/or the others encountered the grizzly?
-What if Rosie got a doll house instead of a sled? :lol:
-What if Balto met Nava or Niju instead of the white wolf?
-What if Balto CAUGHT PIKACHU?

Balto 2 What Ifs

-What if Balto was stuck leading the wolf pack?
-What if Niju went with Aleu? Would he try and take over the pack again?
-What if Balto never let himself get pushed into the river by the fox?
-What if Jenna went with Balto?
-What if Steele went with Balto (for whatever reason xD)
-What if Aleu looked just like her brothers and sisters?

Balto 3 What Ifs

-What if the team lost?
-What if Balto refused to help beat the plane, and Steele offered instead?
-What if Kirby or Kodi led the team?
-What if Dusty slipped off the cliff?
-What if Balto rammed his head into that tree? :lol:
-What if the team was attacked by grizzlies? :lol:
-What if THE PLANE CRASHED INTO THE TEAM!?!?!


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: IDEAS - "What-ifs"?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:44 am 
Animation Source is my home!
Animation Source is my home!
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:40 pm
Posts: 16716
Location: In remission from bone cancer
Gender: Male
Balto 1 what if.

What if Balto didn't show Jenna the broken bottles?

Balto 2 What ifs.

What if Aleu didn't come back up to the surface?

What if Aleu slipped off the cliff before Balto got the tree branch?

What if the wave knocked Aleu into the ocean?

Balto 3 what if.

What if Boris met another female goose besides Stella?

_________________
Avi by Roi

Sig by Moki

I'm offering NO argument to any Animation Sourcer -Celtic Kate

Image


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: IDEAS - "What-ifs"?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:33 pm 
Famous one
Famous one
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:40 pm
Posts: 1652
Location: Back at home in VA
Gender: Female
Cat: I think your responses made my day. [s]I'd want to the see the "Balto catches Pikachu" one.[/s] XD
Here's my faves of yours:
catwhohas14tails wrote:
Balto 1 What Ifs

-What if Balto never made it out of the ice? Would Jenna try and save Rosie herself?
-What if Rosie got a doll house instead of a sled? :lol:
-What if Balto CAUGHT PIKACHU?

Balto 2 What Ifs

-What if Balto was stuck leading the wolf pack?
-What if Niju went with Aleu? Would he try and take over the pack again?
-What if Jenna went with Balto?
-What if Steele went with Balto (for whatever reason xD)
-What if Aleu looked just like her brothers and sisters?

Balto 3 What Ifs

-What if the team lost?
-What if Kirby or Kodi led the team?
-What if the team was attacked by grizzlies? :lol:
-What if THE PLANE CRASHED INTO THE TEAM!?!?!


You are so AWESOMELY morbid, Cat. That's probably why your ideas are so GENIUS.


Alpha Aleu: Those are good too. *my, my . . . we are so MORBID when it comes to Aleu, aren't we?*

Here's my faves:
Alpha Aleu wrote:
Balto 1 what if.

What if Balto didn't show Jenna the broken bottles?


Balto 3 what if.

What if Boris met another female goose besides Stella?


At least with the WoC idea, there would be no STELLA. *could hope the new goose was less annoying and well-endowed*


Zorro the Coyote: I like your WoC ideas the best. Those would make the plot much more interesting . . . and dramatic IMO.
Still, I have faves of yours too:
Zorro the Coyote wrote:
Balto I: What if?

* What if Jenna had never been hurt by the bear and could continue on the trek with Balto, Boris and the bears?

Balto II: What if?

* What if Aleu had another wolfish sibling?
* What if the ice bridge had come together if Balto and Aleu hadn't turned up? Who would the pack follow then?
* What if Nava/Balto had gone with the pack?

Balto III: What if?

* What if Kodi hadn't gone after Balto? He probably wouldn't have if it wasn't for Jenna seeing him.
* What if the plane hadn't crashed?
* What if Kodi was a fast runner to begin with? This is a key element in his bond with his father and would probably affect it if it didn't exist.
* If another sibling of Kodi (i.e. Dingo, Saba) was on the mail run as well as himself?
* If Duke was more or less an antagonistic pilot. I think the film would've been more dramatic in this way; it would have a villian that wasn't a dog/wolf and Balto would've been more heroic for saving him.


Response to the first one: Heck, the trilogy needed MORE JENNA. (It would be even worse if someone said for WQ, "What if Jenna traveled with Balto and she chose to lead the wolves?" HOLY CRAP, that would be EPIC though. HECK, I'd write it . . . since I write enough based on the WQ plot anyway.)

And out of the WoC ones, the Duke idea is actually one I'd read. I didn't understand his character much, but I liked that he actually was a threat. Now him being MORE of a threat to the sled dogs . . . now that's a movie! (Why didn't the writers think about this???)


Zorro the Coyote wrote:
What if the plane had crashed into the team? Pure genius. The film would've only been forty-five minutes long since half of the characters would've died at this point.


That might have helped to make it better. XD *not really a big WoC fan*

Thanks for your ideas! Tell your friends about this and spread the word!

- Juuchan17

_________________


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: IDEAS - "What-ifs"?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:32 pm 
Living here
Living here
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:17 pm
Posts: 638
Location: Go ahead. Try to guess.
catwhohas14tails wrote:
-What if Balto CAUGHT PIKACHU?


That would be pretty darn amazing. I would also love to see that :lol:


Balto 1 What-Ifs

- What if Rosie was an orphan?

- What if Jenna wasn't purebred husky?

- What if the telegram guy didn't feel the need to speak in broken sentences?

- What if all the snow had melted as Balto was leading the sled team back to Nome?

And my favorite...

- What if Muk and Luk really couldn't swim? O____o

Balto 2 What-Ifs

- What if Aleu had had husky coloring like her mother, but still had the same wolf-like personality?

- What if Nava hadn't been able to "become one with the tree"? (I think Niju could answer that one for me :lol:)

- What if the caribou were just over the side of the cliff that the clan lived on all along?

Balto 3 What-Ifs

- What if Balto had been able to hold his tongue and not swear in the middle of his G-rated movie? :/

- What if Dusty had given "obvious" hints that she liked any one dog?

- Not very original, but what if Kodi had been the one to lead the sled team? (That's what I wanted him to do all along)

- What if Steele had been in this movie at all? (Another aspect that I missed in the third movie)

_________________
What could this possibly be!? <-- 'Tis my art gallery. Visit it. >:P

A proud member of the the Three 'Nesses.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: IDEAS - "What-ifs"?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:59 pm 
Living here
Living here
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:27 am
Posts: 623
Location: Southern California
Gender: Female
Antagonistic is a word.

BALTO 1
- What if Balto got the team even more lost? (breaking down below)
a. Would Steele save Balto? Why or why not?
b. If Balto made it back to Nome, how would he be treated?
- What if Balto was too late and Rosie didn't make it?
- What if Jenna went with Steele regardless of Balto's heroism?
- What if Balto was never raised by Boris?


BALTO 2
- What if Aleu was adopted?
- What if instead of Aleu going out to find herself, it was one of the more husky-ish pups?
- What if there was nothing spiritual in WQ? How would Balto find Aleu without the spirits' help?
- What if Nava didn't even exist? How would the pack pressure Niju into following the caribou?

BALTO 3
- What if Stella's subplot didn't suck?

_________________
Image
You made me... pick up on things, I probably would've just gone on ignoring.
Trust your partner... and I do. I can't forgive you, but I trust you.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: IDEAS - "What-ifs"?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:27 pm 
Living here
Living here
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:25 pm
Posts: 775
Location: Out of This World
Gender: Male
I've got one, one I know you'd like:

What if Aleu returned before the events in Balto III?

_________________
ImageImage


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: IDEAS - "What-ifs"?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:25 pm 
Famous one
Famous one
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:40 pm
Posts: 1652
Location: Back at home in VA
Gender: Female
Wow, you guys! So many ideas . . . so many that intrigue me! (I wish I could write them ALL, but I'm not that good . . . XD)


Iditarod: I have faves . . . although I usually like EVERYTHING:
Iditarod wrote:
Balto 1 What-Ifs

- What if Rosie was an orphan?
- What if Jenna wasn't purebred husky?
And my favorite...
- What if Muk and Luk really couldn't swim? O____o

Balto 2 What-Ifs
- What if Aleu had had husky coloring like her mother, but still had the same wolf-like personality?
- What if Nava hadn't been able to "become one with the tree"? (I think Niju could answer that one for me :lol:)
- What if the caribou were just over the side of the cliff that the clan lived on all along?

Balto 3 What-Ifs
- What if Balto had been able to hold his tongue and not swear in the middle of his G-rated movie? :/
- What if Dusty had given "obvious" hints that she liked any one dog?
- Not very original, but what if Kodi had been the one to lead the sled team? (That's what I wanted him to do all along)
- What if Steele had been in this movie at all? (Another aspect that I missed in the third movie)


Orphan Rosy would have been a major twist, probably making it so that she "owned" Balto if she was homeless, giving him more of a reason to go after the medicine. (ooh, write this now you guys)

Iditarod wrote:
- Not very original, but what if Kodi had been the one to lead the sled team? (That's what I wanted him to do all along)


I think we ALL wanted something like this, but they had to keep Balto in the main story somehow. At least it would have given Kodi a higher responsibility to become a leader like his dad, as well as the chance for us to learn more about him (and he'd get more SCREENTIME!!!).

============================

Sora-kun: Here's my favorites:
Sora-Kun wrote:
BALTO 1
- What if Balto got the team even more lost? (breaking down below)
a. Would Steele save Balto? Why or why not?
b. If Balto made it back to Nome, how would he be treated?
- What if Balto was too late and Rosie didn't make it?
- What if Jenna went with Steele regardless of Balto's heroism?

BALTO 2
- What if Aleu was adopted?
- What if instead of Aleu going out to find herself, it was one of the more husky-ish pups?
- What if there was nothing spiritual in WQ? How would Balto find Aleu without the spirits' help?
- What if Nava didn't even exist? How would the pack pressure Niju into following the caribou?


Seriously, if Rosy died, the film would have been more realistic, if not more true to the real story (in with many still died before the medicine arrived). And if Jenna went with Steele, that would just be so WRONG. XD

I like all of the WQ ideas (although I started an answer to the first one about Aleu getting adopted - never going to be finished, it seems) . . . OBVIOUSLY, I'm a WQ fan.

Sora-Kun wrote:
BALTO 3
- What if Stella's subplot didn't suck?

Then WoC would have actually been GOOD. (seriously, it was a lame film, but I only enjoyed it for the Balto fandom purposes. I didn't like Stella at all, but at least they tried to put in a character that would appeal to grown-ups/young adults, since they probably saw the first film in theaters/VHS/etc.)

==========================

Skulblaka_Shur'tugal wrote:
I've got one, one I know you'd like:

What if Aleu returned before the events in Balto III?


OH LORD. You just read my mind, buddy.

It would have been an interesting idea, but I fear that it would have been hard to write Aleu as the supporter role instead of the lead (which we all know she'd be used to). She's a natural leader anyway, but it probably would have made for some good sibling interaction (which was clearly absent from the third film . . . the flashback during Jenna's song doesn't count - TOO SHORT.) as well as personality development for both characters (like how much Aleu had matured, as well as how Kodi handled learning about his part-wolf heritage).

The other hard part would be how to explain why she returned anyway . . . and keep it under 5 minutes or so (the third film was Kodi's movie - Aleu had the entire second one already!). It would be interesting to hear what the writers would choose as a reason though, but for her to just abandon her destiny that took her about 45 minutes to get to in WQ just to return home for no real reason would made her seem more of a weakling (or a Daddy's Girl . . . which we ALL know she is).

I still don't think she would have added much in a film focused more on dog-sledding since she's more in tune with her wolf side.

==========================

Zorro the Coyote wrote:
Juuchan - Cat's holy mission in life is to rip the Balto sequels by following the saying of no origin: "Anything worth taking seriously is worth making fun of."

EDIT: Is "antagonistic" even a word? I don't really like the word "evil", it's too cheesy.


And this is why I like her ideas, and IT'S TRUE. Why not make fun of your fandom time after time? Who knows - it might make someone's interest in the fandom return . . . (it did for me!!)

To be honest, no one was really EVIL in the Balto films - they were either 1) really devious; 2) protective of their own family/beliefs/feelings/values/etc.; or 3) just prejudiced.



- Juuchan17

_________________


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: IDEAS - "What-ifs"?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:29 am 
Animation Source is my home!
Animation Source is my home!
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:40 pm
Posts: 16716
Location: In remission from bone cancer
Gender: Male
I just thought of another Balto 2 what if.

What if Nava told the whale to spray Aleu,as well as Niju?

_________________
Avi by Roi

Sig by Moki

I'm offering NO argument to any Animation Sourcer -Celtic Kate

Image


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: IDEAS - "What-ifs"?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:11 am 
Animation Source is my home!
Animation Source is my home!
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:42 am
Posts: 2236
Gender: Female
Wolf_for_life wrote:

Balto 2
What if Aleu ate Muru?




Or what if Muru ate Aleu? :lol:


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: IDEAS - "What-ifs"?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:29 am 
Animation Source is my home!
Animation Source is my home!
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:14 am
Posts: 2242
Location: Back in cold wet England, wishing I was in dear old New Zealand.
Gender: Female



Rex (GSD) wrote:
Wolf_for_life wrote:

Balto 2
What if Aleu ate Muru?




Q. Or what if Muru ate Aleu? :lol:


A. He'd be a very fat mouse! :lol:

_________________
I am still ShebaDove {wolf}
I had problems when I tried to change (it was too long). Now my it has changed back to my old one in some places on the forums but it is still ShebaDove {wolf} elsewhere! I will pm a mod about it.


Art / Images <--Linkz!


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 17 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours



You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2008 phpBB Group