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------ RARE TaleSpin Stuff for Download, including:

* "Plunder and Lightning" UNCUT TaleSpin Pilot Movie (90 min. runtime)
* The two Banned episodes, “Last Horizons” and “Flying Dupes”
* Story Boards for “A Bad Reflection on You”
* Official TaleSpin Soundtrack

The Uncut Movie and storyboards can be found nowhere else.

http://www.spinnerstuff.com/pl.htm

-- The pilot movie is available as a single file here:
http://www.spinnerstuff.com/pl/plcomplete.avi (981Mb) *fixed

Thank You spinnerstuff, DaveJ and Spatsbear!



------ Streaming and Downloadable TaleSpin Media *NEW!

---- Video (YouTube)
-- Uncut Pilot Movie
http://cloudkicker.proboards.com/index. ... age=1#2640
-- Regular Episodes
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... ield=title
-- Intro Theme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIl5YwcO72g

---- Audio
---Songs
http://www.talespinhq.com/Multimedia/music.htm
---Quotes
http://www.talespinhq.com/Multimedia/audio.htm

---- TaleSpin Games
-- Video Games
http://www.talespinhq.com/GamesComics/TSsega.htm
http://www.talespinhq.com/GamesComics/TSnin.htm
-- TS animated gifs & pictures from video games
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/4340/ts.htm
-- Card Games
http://www.sullivanet.com/pirateisland/ ... rdgame.htm
http://www.fourhman.com/talespin/

---- Other Stuff
-- Icons, coloring pages & wallpaper
http://www.talespinhq.com/Multimedia/downloads.htm



------ Lots of Information

-- The TaleSpin Wikipedia entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TaleSpin
-- The International Movie Database TaleSpin entry:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098924/
-- An Exhaustive TaleSpin reference guide:
http://talespinsourcepage.i8.com/



------ Interviews and Correspondence with TS Production Crew

-- Working on TaleSpin:
http://mouseclubhouse.com/photo-stories ... lespin.htm
-- Interview with Ed Ghertner, Co-Producer:
http://www.mouseclubhouse.com/Interview ... lespin.htm
-- Interview with Leonard Smith, Character Designer:
http://www.sullivanet.com/pirateisland/len.html
-- Interview with Jymn Magon, Creator/Writer/Story Editor:
- Complete
http://amber3.org/archive/magon
- Abridged
http://starflashes.tripod.com/ology/emuck.html *NEW!
-- Jymn Magon's Spin on Kit Cloudkicker
http://cloudkicker.50webs.com/Editorials/jmagon.htm *NEW!
-- Jymn Magon Answers Fan Questions
http://www.animationsource.org/talespin ... &nump=1338 *NEW!



------ Quotes

http://www.talespin.co.uk/quotes/search ... ny&episode
http://www.talespinhq.com/Characters/quotes.htm
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098924/quotes
http://www.retrojunk.com/tv/quotes/145-talespin/
http://cloudkicker.50webs.com/Other/kc_quote.htm
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity ... quotes.htm *NEW!
-- Song Lyrics
http://www.spinnerstuff.com/wiki/index.php?title=Songs *NEW!
http://www.talespinhq.com/Multimedia/lyrics.htm *NEW!



------ Screengrabs

http://www.talespinhq.com/Multimedia/screengrabs.htm
http://cloudkicker.50webs.com/Screens/kc_image.htm
http://prettysideofpain.ketnar.org/tsgoodies.html
http://www.angelfire.com/indie/forgotte ... espin.html
http://www.talespin.co.uk/gallery/searc ... s=&episode
http://www.talespinhq.com/Multimedia/sg00Plunder.htm *NEW!



------ Episode Reviews, Guides and Airdates

http://www.baloolagoon.com/reviews/reviews.html
http://www.tv.com/talespin/show/3235/ep ... av;episode *NEW!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TaleSpin_episodes *NEW!
http://www.talespinhq.com/Tv/episodeR.htm *NEW!
http://www.spinnerstuff.com/wiki/index. ... e=Episodes *NEW!
http://starflashes.tripod.com/dkeps.html *NEW!
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/cloudkic ... index.html *NEW!
http://cloudkicker.50webs.com/Editorial ... isodes.htm *NEW!



------ TaleSpin Cuts and Edits *NEW!

-- “Plunder and Lightning” Movie
http://www.talespinhq.com/General/movie.htm
http://cloudkicker.50webs.com/Editorials/tsedits.htm
-- Regular Episodes
http://www.talespinhq.com/Tv/edits.htm



------ Creation Resources

---- Fanart
-- Character Model Sheets:
http://animationarchive.net/TV/Series/T ... /index.php
-- Character color keys:
http://www.silabub.com/katarina/colorkey.html
-- Drawing Tips:
http://www.silabub.com/katarina/advice.html

---- Fanfiction
-- Character Biographies:
http://www.baloolagoon.com/character/characters.htm
http://www.talespin.co.uk/characters/
http://www.roninfur.com/ts/hero.html
http://www.roninfur.com/ts/vill.html
http://www.roninfur.com/ts/guestsofts.html
-- An irreverent look at writing TaleSpin characterization:
http://www.baloolagoon.com/spintale/joe_usefultips.htm
-- An Analysis of Kit Cloudkicker: Why a Pirate?
http://www.brahmabear.com/kkforever/edi ... irate.html *NEW!
-- An Analysis of Don Karnage: Bark vs Bite
http://www.brahmabear.com/kkforever/edi ... /bark.html *NEW!
-- Pitate and Protege: The K&K Relationship
http://www.brahmabear.com/kkforever/edi ... elate.html *NEW!
-- A analysis of Don Karnage: Devil, Clown, or Something More?– Extremes in Characterization
http://starflashes.tripod.com/ology/characterstuff.html
-- Tips for Writing Don Karnage:
http://www.baloolagoon.com/spintale/sca ... ite_dk.htm
-- Useful Tips for Writing Wildcat:
http://www.baloolagoon.com/spintale/mon ... ildcat.htm
-- A Mollyphobe’s Guide to Writing Molly Cunningham:
http://www.baloolagoon.com/spintale/gid_mollyphobia.htm
-- An Anthropological View On TaleSpin
http://members.lycos.co.uk/mollyssuite1978/molly4.html *NEW!
-- Speaking without Worlds – Setting the TaleSpin World
http://cloudkicker.50webs.com/Editorials/settings.htm *NEW!



------ Fanfiction

http://home.earthlink.net/~eilonwy/highflight/
http://www.sullivanet.com/pirateisland/tsfic.html
http://www.fanfiction.net/cartoon/Tale_Spin/
http://www.talespinhq.com/FanWork/fanfiction.htm
http://cloudkicker.50webs.com/Fanfics/kcfanfic.htm
http://www.baloolagoon.com/fiction/all_fanfics.html
http://www.brahmabear.com/ddtf/index.html *NEW!
http://www.brahmabear.com/kkforever/fics/index.html *NEW!
http://members.lycos.co.uk/mollyssuite1978/molly2.html *NEW!
http://starflashes.tripod.com/dkfics.html *NEW!
http://www.animationsource.org/talespin/en/fanfic/ *NEW!
-- Fanfic MiSTs
http://www.sullivanet.com/pirateisland/fics/mists/ *NEW!



------ Fanart

http://www.brahmabear.com/krickitt/tale ... espin.html
http://www.silabub.com/katarina/talespinseriesart.html
http://www.brahmabear.com/clearskies/ts/talespin.htm
http://prettysideofpain.ketnar.org/tsfanart.html
http://www.sullivanet.com/pirateisland/tsart.html
http://cloudkicker.50webs.com/Fanart/kc_art.htm
http://www.baloolagoon.com/images/allartists_list.htm
http://www.brahmabear.com/kkforever/art/scarlet.html *NEW!
http://www.brahmabear.com/kkforever/art/davis.html *NEW!
http://www.brahmabear.com/kkforever/art/others.html *NEW!
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity ... allery.htm *NEW!
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity ... ork.htm#ts *NEW!
http://www.talespinhq.com/FanWork/fanart.htm *NEW!
http://www.newwave.net/~dlstone/ts1.html *NEW!
http://members.lycos.co.uk/mollyssuite1978/molly3.html *NEW!
http://starflashes.tripod.com/dkartmain.html *NEW!
http://www.geocities.com/shawndogg1986/MY-ART.html *NEW!
http://www.animationsource.org/talespin/en/fanart/ *NEW!



------ Fan Forums and Message Boards *NEW!

-- High Flight Comment Board
http://disc.yourwebapps.com/Indices/27554.html
-- Cloudkicker's Message Board
http://www.cloudkicker.proboards.com/index.cgi
-- TV.com TS Forum
http://www.tv.com/talespin/show/3235/fo ... nav;forums
-- Livejournal TS Board
http://community.livejournal.com/tale_spin/
-- Steet's TS Forum
viewforum.php?f=64



------ Miscellaneous Noteworthy Stuff

-- TaleSpin press release:
http://www.sullivanet.com/pirateisland/press1.htm
-- Animation discrepancies between Canada and US TaleSpin airings
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity ... /tscan.htm *NEW!
-- Disney's TS page
http://psc.disney.go.com/abcnetworks/to ... index.html *NEW!
-- Parody of Disney's TS Page
http://www.sullivanet.com/pirateisland/ ... arody.html *NEW!
-- Bring backTaleSpin Petition
http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Park/5977/stuff.html *NEW!
--TaleSpin Translations
http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Park/59 ... ation.html *NEW!




update 06/28/09 - Added 11 new links, including 5 in new Quotes section.
update 08/17/09 - Added 60 new links (with some subdivided from more general links), including 10 in new Streaming and Downloadable TS Media section, 3 in new Correspondence and Interview section, 7 in new Episode Reviews, Guides and Airdates section, 3 in new Cuts and Edits section and 5 in new Fan Forums and Message Boards section. Fixed plcomplete.avi link.

Thanks for posting all this - I had found most of these links myself, but not everything.
I'll have to go through my bookmarks and see what I can add to the list

I especially like the interviews : for example I had no idea that :



Four teams working on TaleSpin at the same time!!! And even more "productions" teams apparently (Walt Disney Animation Japan, Disney France, Sun Woo Animation, Wang Film Productions) That's insane!

That could explain something I have found this week, on "The Animation Guild" site (a sort of blog / newspaper for actual workers in animation - I ofter go there to know "what's happening" and the future animation projects...)

http://www.animationguild.org/_Pegboard ... 200906.pdf

I can't copy/paste the text as it's a PDF, but it's on the 2nd page : basically, the author says that back in the Disney Afternoon times, there were too many writers/staff, which made the process of validation of stories very long and painful...

At the same time, that could also explain why the TaleSpin (and the other DA shows) had very good quality stories, but it's also surprising that they could maintain a good coherence in the stories / characters, with all these different teams and people working on them...

It could also explain the downfall of the Disney shows after mid-1995, with all the layoffs they had to make...

Oh, by the way : I'm going to post the "character guides" links you provided in the Fanfics section, as it's VERY interesting for everyone who plans to write TS fanfics. (And same thing for the fanarts.)

Thanks for posting all of these, 0x7B! I have enjoyed all of what these sites have to offer from time to time. It does have a nice fanbase.

And here is our Cloudkicker's Message Board link, for those that don't know that it exists:

http://cloudkicker.proboards.com/index.cgi

Updated! Added 60 new links. (I removed a few links that were too general and replaced them with more category specific links.)

To mods: If this type of post is not allowed, please let me know.

Of course it is In fact, you've used that section better than anyone else did on the whole board (including the section for the two other films) Thanks!

Actually I think you should copy / paste this and put it as an article on the site, so as to get more people attracted. (I think many don't even check that section)

(Note : I'll have to check all these links myself...)

Thanks, and you're welcome! I'm glad I could help out!

Sure, I can go ahead and send all this as an article if you like. One thing though, I'll probably accumulate more links for another update in a few weeks or so... Will I be able to update the article?

Yes it is possible to update articles. (even if the interface isn't that great, but it is still working)

I have links that some of the cast and crew created for themselves (lots of them; tons of fun):

http://gregory-weagle.livejournal.com/169150.html



Actually; they techincally had five teams since Ed Ghertner was replaced by James T. Walker after Jolly Molly Christmas. I think they had anywhere from 5-6 story editors, up to 15 writers on one team. I think they had three teams related to sound (The movie guys with Rick Hinson, the cartoon team with Tim J. Bourqez; and David John West Productions in a few of them). They also had a lot of freelancers working; some of them are uncredited due to the fixed width font used for the credit endings. I still discover people claiming that they worked on TaleSpin that were not credited; Glenn Hill being the latest.

That's an impressive list


Well that makes it even more impressive, no wonder how they were able to make so many varied and interesting stories!
The question is : was it the same for the other DA shows?

And I guess they really don't have so many people working on their current TV animated series...

TaleSpin had 26 writers (which was less than Ducktales had; although to be fair Ducktales had 25 extra episodes plus the movie); seven story editors; 86 voice talents, 13 animation directors, 7 assistant producers, 47+ storyboard designers (clean up and sluggers are uncredited by Disney by the way; and Keith Tucker should be on the list but isn't), seven character designers, 5 prop designers, 9 Layout designers, 8 background designers, 7 color key designers, 4 overseeing the animation overseas, 15 Timing directors, 15 production assistants, eight sound editors and so on. I don't know the exact details of how the other series are coordinated; but I think they are went the same way.

As for current television series; I humbly disagree. I think the cast & crew numbers are similar to what they are in 1990; mileage varies depending on the production. The difference is that there are far fewer people uncredited.

Well then, this makes it very hard to believe they need as many writers to do something like "Mickey's Clubhouse"...Or that means they really are under-exploiting their resources.

I do remember reading something on the Animation Guild about Disney having too much staff (especially writers) during/after the DA and having to lay off a lot...

I'm not sure if you noticed this steet; but I found this while doing some follow up work on the French Animators from Walt Disney France.

http://artofdisney.canalblog.com/archiv ... 56426.html

It even includes storyboards from various series and movie and three interviews. It's all in French though; so for English speakers; you will need Babelfish or whatever.

I also found this little gem: http://www.les-dessous-du-dessin.be/det ... lanche=948

Wowzer! I can kind of get an idea of what they are talking about.

You can use Babelfish to translate the page. Paste the url into the "Translate a web page" field and select "French to English" from the drop-down box.

Very interesting! I knew the site but didn't visit for some time, so I didn't see the article.
I honestly didn't know the studio ran up to 2003. I thought it was long gone since the mid 90's, but they actually worked on some of the feature films (which I wasn't aware of) even if they didn't do TV animation anymore.

The two storyboard pictures are very cool; there are also interviews from a few guys at the studios that I'll have to listen to when I get the time.
I think I'll contact the blog owner to both ask for some contacts (maybe I could do my own interview? and I'm sure there are more TS storyboards to find), and maybe to ask for a partnership...