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 Post subject: Fox Realism *Crits?*
PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:58 am 
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Hey Bee Essers xD

I'd like some crits on my fox realism =)


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It was done without reference. Please let me know how I could improve it and what you think I did the best... =) Thank you ^^

If you're interested in my art here are the links to some of the places you can find it :

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Very nicely drawn AT,I love the detail of the fox.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:21 am 
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Without reference? That's pretty good :D

As for crits, I have just a couple; I think the individual parts are generally pretty well done,
but the way they're put together w/ the rest of the fox is a little rocky in places. For example,
the ear (near side) - the part that connects to the head on the inner side should probably be
more up & back. The whole base of the ear ought to flow w/ the skull & blend smoothly w/ the
topline. The forehead should also have a -slightly- more gradual slope to it, instead of being
rounded, then suddenly having the muzzle jut out. You might also want to give him a little bit
more of a bottom jaw - it's not terribly off, but seems to be a tad too thin in the middle.

But other than that, I think you're off to a very good start w/ realism :3 Some things I like
in particular are the eye, nose, lip and chest-fluff. You've also got the general idea of which
way the fur flows; you might want to take the next step w/ that and try to define the individual
layers, instead of the general gist of it.

*tailwag* Hope you continue w/ the realism, looks like once you get a few of the more subtle
details down, you'll be great :D

Here's a few good references I found that could help...

http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/s ... eeping.jpg
http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/pgc/lib/pgc/ ... ed_fox.jpg
http://www.julietchapman.com/Workshops/ ... 20snow.jpg

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:35 pm 
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Kiche wrote:
Without reference? That's pretty good :D


Thank you =) And thank you very much for the crits ^^ I don't get very many good ones from bs usually...considering alot of members here don't take drawing TOO seriously =P

But you've given exactly what I was looking for ! Thank you very much =) I'll try again and brush over the references you've given me ^^ Thanks for those too =D


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Very nicely drawn AT,I love the detail of the fox.


Thank you =)

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:25 pm 
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I really like its ears. The mouth and nose could use a little work.

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Graystripe wrote:
I really like its ears. The mouth and nose could use a little work.


Uhm, why do they need work...? Cause just telling me they need work won't help me figure out what you mean by it...xD

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i really see no need of improvement, it is excellent work, i would love to see it colored, Two thumbs up for this art work

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Chameleon Grisha wrote:
i really see no need of improvement, it is excellent work, i would love to see it colored, Two thumbs up for this art work


In my eyes, there is always room for improvement =) But thank you very much for the compliment =)

As for it being coloured, I don't think so. But I suppose I could consider it =P

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So cute, great job. I love the fur detail.

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Mightybalto1925 wrote:
So cute, great job. I love the fur detail.


Thank you xD I beginning to think that I've done a good job on the details !xD Many people have said that to me so far =P

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Graystripe wrote:
I really like its ears. The mouth and nose could use a little work.


Uhm, why do they need work...? Cause just telling me they need work won't help me figure out what you mean by it...xD


It looks kinda smoosh to the side.

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This looks really good!

For future attempts, I strongly suggest finding some photo references so you can make sure everything is in the right place.

I really hope you don't mind... I did a redline for you. Images speak louder than words afterall.
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Obviously, you'd have to "fluff" the flat lines. This is just to demonstrate where I think it looks a bit off.

Just to explain a bit of that:

The nose looked too far around the face for the head position, needed to be facing a bit more forward in the direction the fox is looking.

The mouth was too long, it'd have to be stretching it's mouth for it to be that long along it's face.

Canine/Vulpine eyes are often more like triangles with a circle inside them. The circle being the eye itself and the rest being the tear duct. Like here.

The ears were a bit too wide for a fox and too triangular. Just need to be shaped a bit more.

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Most of all that is fixed when you have a few references to look at. This is -very- good considering you had no refs.
Keep up the good work!

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UK - Ban Cat wrote:
The nose looked too far around the face for the head position, needed to be facing a bit more forward in the direction the fox is looking.

The mouth was too long, it'd have to be stretching it's mouth for it to be that long along it's face.

Canine/Vulpine eyes are often more like triangles with a circle inside them. The circle being the eye itself and the rest being the tear duct. Like here.

The ears were a bit too wide for a fox and too triangular. Just need to be shaped a bit more.
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Most of all that is fixed when you have a few references to look at. This is -very- good considering you had no refs.
Keep up the good work!


Thank you =) And yes, if I had refs, it would have been easier for me to grasp those details x_X

And I appreciate you doing those redlines !xD It helps me understand more thoroughly what I missed. Thank you very much for that !=]

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