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 Post subject: Non-Balto Adoptions/Other pain- in- the-backside-stuff
PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:05 pm 
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Ok, Now please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but there have been loads of usless spam adoptions, with non-Balto related animals, such as cats or stuff that looks like two animals made babies and regurgetated them back up, like you can't even tell what it is or some made up breeds. Now the last time I checked the Adpotion forum topic (and the rest for that matter) are supposed to be Balto/dog related.


Oh yeah also, what is with other members of BS shooting other people's ideas down? I'm mean honestly I thought the whole purpose of this site was to enjoy being a fan of something and using your creative side not to be scorned upon by other people just because you put two characters together or something I mean come on people its called fandom for a reason.


Another thing, (I wasn't sure to post this or not but oh well), this is more directed twards the staff, not trying to be rude or to question the way Steet runs things but why aren't we allowed to have "Bi and or gay" couples? I understand this is supposed to be a "Kid-Friendly" site but if you stop to take into consideration it was adults who had created all of the balto movies, also I undestand kids shouldn't be "Exposed" to this type of stuff but I also thik its more or less the parent's faults as well as the kids, like I've stated before isn't one opf the purposes of this site is to be creative and share ideas? This is mainly direacted twards fan are and or fanfics. With fanart I can totally see the "No dirty dogs" rule and fanfics, lets face it this is all apart of life, you have ratings on there fore a reason, its the reader's falt if they read something thats a little "too much" for their minds, They are in control of their mouse and fingers, the can control what they click on besides you run into stuff that is way wore on the internet than some little "scene" in a fanfic.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:44 pm 
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Oh yeah also, what is with other members of BS shooting other people's ideas down? I'm mean honestly I thought the whole purpose of this site was to enjoy being a fan of something and using your creative side not to be scorned upon by other people just because you put two characters together or something I mean come on people its called fandom for a reason.

Oh, I knew you'd get around to this sooner or later. You know very well why I had a problem with one specific option in that topic you posted (with the poll asking what your fiction should be about)...I will not restate it here. Let's not troll around for a flame war, m'kay?





Umm not to be rude but why are you acting like this was directed twards you? I said nothing about any of that

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:52 pm 
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Umm not to be rude but why are you acting like this was directed twards you? I said nothing about any of that

Hmmm...let's see. Is it just a coincidence that, only a matter of days after you posted that topic in the fan fiction/gamebook board, about a new fan fiction you want to write, and I expressed my distaste at one of the options for a plot you listed in an accompanying poll there (which option was originally listed as "Steele RAPES Jenna"), which was only changed to a similar - but less-obvious - terminology after I expressed that distaste, you then posted this topic which, among other things, mentions how you don't like people "...shooting other people's ideas down"?

Yeah...that's just a random coincidence. Right. :lol:


Not every 'bad thing' that a member complains about is directed at you, you know... You just jump to that conclusion. A lot... =\

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Ok, Now please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but there have been loads of usless spam adoptions, with non-Balto related animals, such as cats or stuff that looks like two animals made babies and regurgetated them back up, like you can't even tell what it is or some made up breeds. Now the last time I checked the Adpotion forum topic (and the rest for that matter) are supposed to be Balto/dog related.


I don't think the adoptions is supposed to be just for Balto/dog related adoptions, just fancharacters in general. But there are a lot of useless adoptions. Well... most of them are useless, if not all of them. I think it's really unneeded all together and just takes up space. =\ I've never liked the idea of adoptions much.. x] I think probably because people make characters up on the spot just to "put up for adoption". Which is rather annoying.

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Oh yeah also, what is with other members of BS shooting other people's ideas down? I'm mean honestly I thought the whole purpose of this site was to enjoy being a fan of something and using your creative side not to be scorned upon by other people just because you put two characters together or something I mean come on people its called fandom for a reason.


I kinda agree. Everyone is free to voice his/her own opinion, but for those who strongly voice theres in some ways can be rather bothersome. I like the "if you don't like it, don't post" thing, which many many members don't seem to go by. And then there are some that believe that their opinion is the only one and if you don't agree, you're pretty much evil.

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Another thing, (I wasn't sure to post this or not but oh well), this is more directed twards the staff, not trying to be rude or to question the way Steet runs things but why aren't we allowed to have "Bi and or gay" couples? I understand this is supposed to be a "Kid-Friendly" site but if you stop to take into consideration it was adults who had created all of the balto movies, also I undestand kids shouldn't be "Exposed" to this type of stuff but I also thik its more or less the parent's faults as well as the kids, like I've stated before isn't one opf the purposes of this site is to be creative and share ideas? This is mainly direacted twards fan are and or fanfics. With fanart I can totally see the "No dirty dogs" rule and fanfics, lets face it this is all apart of life, you have ratings on there fore a reason, its the reader's falt if they read something thats a little "too much" for their minds, They are in control of their mouse and fingers, the can control what they click on besides you run into stuff that is way wore on the internet than some little "scene" in a fanfic.


Most people know my stand on this, and I agree with you. It honestly irks me to no end that "gay" couples are not allowed here when they are no different from hetero couples. The only difference is the gender. Some people say that "kids shouldn't be shown that kind of material", which really shows how closed minded they are. There's nothing wrong with it. As long as it's based on love, what does it matter??!! It's not like there would be R or X rated stuff. :roll: And then there are people that say that it gives Balto and the characters a bad name. But it doesn't. The only character based on a REAL once living thing is the main characters himself. Everyone else is pure fiction. And PLUS - that's why it's called FANfiction, or FANart. Because it's made by fans and IS NOT REAL! People anger me. -.-

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:14 pm 
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Lady_Jenna wrote:
Ok, Now please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but there have been loads of usless spam adoptions, with non-Balto related animals, such as cats or stuff that looks like two animals made babies and regurgetated them back up, like you can't even tell what it is or some made up breeds. Now the last time I checked the Adpotion forum topic (and the rest for that matter) are supposed to be Balto/dog related.


Oh yeah also, what is with other members of BS shooting other people's ideas down? I'm mean honestly I thought the whole purpose of this site was to enjoy being a fan of something and using your creative side not to be scorned upon by other people just because you put two characters together or something I mean come on people its called fandom for a reason.



Pure hypocracy(sp). Aren't you shooting down other peoples' ideas to put non-Balto related animals up for adoption yourself? T_T Perhaps you should re-word yourself LJ...

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:34 am 
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Forum wars... serious business.

Jokes aside, the "No Homosexuality"-rule will not be changed as it helps protect "different" people from cyberbullying by not really allowing them to discuss their sexuality in the open here. It also helps keep the site clean (as, per many international rules, gay content is rated either PG-16 or R) and it's supposed to prevent heated debates that are guaranteed to evolve into flames (such as this topic).

From what I saw of fanfictions during my time as a Fanfic moderator (and sometimes what I see of Fan Videos as well), and several "gay-debates" that I (or another GMod locked), this is too much of a controversial subject to allow, as it causes flames and personal conflicts between the members (we all have different opinions, but you (e.g most of the members here) have time and time again proven you are not yet capable of handling this subject in a mature and proper manner. It always evolves into a flame.

It is not meant to discriminate homosexuals (and gay content); it's meant to protect them (and it) from you (the members).


Prove that you can lead a proper, flame-free debate about this, then we can talk about getting lenient with the rule.

But until you (the members) quit ganging up on people you don't like, cyberbullying, flaming, fighting and display the behaviour of a well-mannered, reasonable person, this rule isn't going to change or be removed.
Ever.

Homosexual content and discussions do also indirectly fall under the "No Politics" rule.

That being said, I'm going to let this topic remain open for discussions on both matters as I believe that my message here now will encourage a proper debate without personal conflict, flaming, bullying, etc. (if only to prove my point that here on BaltoSource, this can't happen)

And now I am being lenient on this rule (17. No debates on sexual matters. They are even worse than political talks, and quickly come into wars. Any reference to deviant-sexual content, whether in text or images, including the "Kodi + Kirby" type of stuff seen here, is not allowed anymore.), but I'm still going to allow the debate to an extent (if only to prove my point to you) and you can argue for this.

I would much rather you stayed on the topic OP (original poster) made and don't go entirely off the rail.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:35 pm 
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@Lady_Jenna:

I looked at your fanfic topic and I have to agree with JC that you were out of line. Every time somebody said something that ya didn't want to hear ya would say that it was off-topic even though they were talking about your fanfic so ya were wrong there.

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A rape thing would be TOTALLY inappropriate for this site, to mention nothing of being disgusting, insulting, out of character even for Steele, and ridiculous.

And personally, I am against any Steele-Jenna pairing. But then, that's me.


Umm ok this has nothing to do with my topic, I'd appreciate positive feedback and or ideas, Thanks.



Wrong. It had everything to do with your topic and ya know it did.

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Please don't spam my topic.



Again, it had everything to do with your topic; and Foxy Aleu was being nice but for some reason ya couldn't help but being rude.


In summary, ya were completely wrong and oblivious and rude with people on your topic so I feel that whatever bad thing that ya were complaining about that happened to ya was something that ya probably deserved.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:50 pm 
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I agree about those adoptions. Its usually just one person going around making an adoption topic for "their characters" and the same person asking for more characters in a contest or request. The best part is, no one gives a crap about their topic and they know it, so what do they do? They keep bumping up the useless topic, shoving the more popular (and useful) ones down to the bottom of the page.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:54 am 
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@Lady_Jenna:

I looked at your fanfic topic and I have to agree with JC that you were out of line. Every time somebody said something that ya didn't want to hear ya would say that it was off-topic even though they were talking about your fanfic so ya were wrong there.

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A rape thing would be TOTALLY inappropriate for this site, to mention nothing of being disgusting, insulting, out of character even for Steele, and ridiculous.

And personally, I am against any Steele-Jenna pairing. But then, that's me.


Umm ok this has nothing to do with my topic, I'd appreciate positive feedback and or ideas, Thanks.



Wrong. It had everything to do with your topic and ya know it did.

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Although I'm not a SteelexJenna fan,It might peak my interest.

Good writing,and good health --Foxy Aleu



Please don't spam my topic.



Again, it had everything to do with your topic; and Foxy Aleu was being nice but for some reason ya couldn't help but being rude.


In summary, ya were completely wrong and oblivious and rude with people on your topic so I feel that whatever bad thing that ya were complaining about that happened to ya was something that ya probably deserved.


Where was the harm in what I wrote down?,I never intended any in any way.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:38 pm 
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Where was the harm in what I wrote down?,I never intended any in any way.


I was defending ya.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:57 pm 
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whitewolf17 wrote:
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Where was the harm in what I wrote down?,I never intended any in any way.


I was defending ya.


I know you were defending me,my comment was about the post of....

Although I'm not a SteelexJenna fan,It might peak my interest.

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