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I don't know if this is the right section to post this, but I really need help.

I'm working on one of my best creations yet- a story about wolves that control the seasons. Well, they are the seasons! Summer = Fire, Fall = Wind, Winter = Ice, Spring = Earth. I'd say much more, but I'm afraid of theft. I love these characters very much!

You've all helped me decide who's hte bad guy, so who do you think should win...? Fire, Ice, Wind or Earth?

Please note that I'm not just taking ideas, I just to know what you think yourself who should win!

--The Earth Wolves fight for peace. They know once the Fire Tribe is stopped, all with remain as it once was. The Ice Tribe could not possible stay angry once the Fire Tribe surrenders... Or will they?

The Wind Wolves fight for freedom. They will fight until both tribes are taken down and someone is faithful enough to take the thrown without destruction.

The Fire Tribe fights for honor. They will not stop until he is renamed king, and Ice Tribe's false ruling is stopped.

The Ice Tribe fights for their rights. She was named queen and she will fight until Fire Tribe surrenders and she gets her honor back.

But no one really notices that all they're doing is destorying, that no one is will to give up, because everyone thinks they are right for the thrown.--

When one thinks of ice, it can be easy to imagine a peaceful landscape covered in a fresh blanket of snow, ladden with snowmen and children having snowball fights and sledding on in their merry way.

I admire your desire to think outside everyone's box, so I'll pitch in a few ideas you might be able to use.

Read a poem by Robert Faust called Birches, which describes the typical landscape of a winter landscape [speaking of which, I'm kinda wondering why Winter is to Ice when ice isn't really one of the four baisc elements. But it's not my story...]. If it doesn't help, at least it can give you a good scenario of what to look for.

Unlike fire, an icy landscape can also mean something barren and desolate. Cold has always been connotated with all of human nature's negative feelings -- feelings that deal mainly with lonelines, isolation, sadness, and ruefullness [sorrow], while intense heat deals with the different side of anger, passion, zealousness, and so forth.

Lucky for you, your story wouldn't be the first to utilize such a concept. Take a closer look at C.S. Lewis's The Chronicles of Narnia, and you'll find more symbolism behind ice and coldness you might be looking for.

I'd like to input that fire has more 'good' sides than people give the element credit for.

One of my favorite points of fire is that its power in destruction is balanced by the ability to create greats things; and lots of it too. For example, the ground that we all stand on, fire played a big role in its creation. Though technically not fire, the sun is another good example because it give us heat and day light.

Hey, think this: what is one of the first things you're suppose to do when creating a camp? Gather wood to make a fire to give you heat, light, and protection from wild animals at night. It also give you a way to be seen because it acts like a beacon.

Another thing is that fire is used to light one's path that otherwise would be treacherous. It pushes against the darkness; a sense of light VS dark, good VS evil.

I don't have any real references to provide but there is plenty off things on the internet that could help you. In the end, it's all up to you and your preferences; no amount of information on either side can make you pick something you don't want.

Shouldn't this be in the fanfics section?

I'd choose to go with the ice tribe as the bad guys because fire is always the bad group so it'd be a welcome change.

I know what your going through with your fanfic because I'm working on one but I have writer's block at the moment.

I voted ice. Though there are plenty of fire-affiliated good guys, too. "Fire and ice" is a common theme, I never really noticed either one being particularly good or bad. It's like yin and yang.

BTW Rex, I believe you meant to reference Robert Frost, not Faust

@WhiteWolf; I'm not sure but if it needs to be moved it'll be taken care of, just hopefully not locked.

I must agree with Rusty, because if ice were the bad guy, I'd have to find a good use for fire. And those were my same thoughts.

All of you have a good point, though. Everything helps. A change in the story line would be nice...

OR, as I've resently thought up, I could have both of them gone crazy for the power... Heres a little story line flash:

The four season wolf tribes have lived in peace with one another for thousands of years... All roaming free, in their own claimed lands, but still sharing as one. But the Sky Tribe was quickly thickening, moving swift in the shadows, praying on all the warriors of seasons. Nothing could be done but to name a king to watch over them. A king to act as a defender, a guard, and someone most powerful.
They chose a king, the strongest flamed Fire wolf in all of the Fire Tribe... He would foreverly protect the four seasons from the Sky Tribe.

But he soon became absorbed in his power, and was pushed from the thrown. An Ice Tribe warrior took over as the new queen. But Fire Tribe wasn't done. The ex-king forced his warriors to bring pain to the other seasons until they'd surrender, allowing him to be king once more. But the pain just kept spreading, until the Seasons War began.

Once the war began, all of the four tribes became for fierce to one another, all living in hatred. With their powers, they all split their lands apart into four islands surrounded by ocean.

"I am not bringing my land back to your's until I am once again the King!" The ex-king lived on these words.

"I'm not bringing my land back until the world knows I'm foreverly the right Queen." Claimed the queen.

"I'm not coming back until peace is back to the seasons." Earth Wolves cried.

"My winds shall not cross pass my land until this war is over." Wind wolves stated.

PAUSE.

I'll stop it right there to add these options... What do you think should happen?!

*1 The new queen will fight against the Fire Tribe until their rain of terror is stopped. Fire Tribe is Evil


*2 Change the story to were the Ice Wolf was named queen and goes insane, the Fire Tribe was always good. Ice Tribe is evil


*3 The new queen goes insane fighting for her rights in the war and soon becomes a cold enime to all. Over time, her rights were lost and they all go on without a ruler, endlessly fighting for the thrown. Both are evil

This is just my idea, and there's no pressure, but I'd find it interesting if neither tribe should be 'good' or 'evil.' Each side has its own flaws and its own problems, and perhaps they must both put aside their differences to fight against the Sky Tribe.

But in the end, it's really up to you what you write about, and only you can really decide.

@DarkCloud; Yeah I was just thinking to do that but I remembered that if you edit the pole it erases the votes. :O

Anyways,.... To all of whom agree that both should be evil, I follow up with DarkCloud. Who would be the good guy? Who would save the day? Well, although the Earth and Wind tribe are only fighting for peace and freedom once again, they must fight for their rights too. They are just involved in the war as Fire and Ice are.
If they don't fight back, the Fire and Ice tribes will destory their population.

The Earth Wolves fight for peace. They know once the Fire Tribe is stopped, all with remain as it once was. The Ice Tribe could not possible stay angry once the Fire Tribe surrenders... Or will they?

The Wind Wolves fight for freedom. They will fight until both tribes are taken down and someone is faithful enough to take the thrown without destruction.

The Fire Tribe fights for honor. They will not stop until he is renamed king, and Ice Tribe's false ruling is stopped.

The Ice Tribe fights for their rights. She was named queen and she will fight until Fire Tribe surrenders and she gets her honor back.

But no one really notices that all they're doing is destorying, that no one is will to give up, because everyone thinks they are right for the thrown.

So who started it? Fire Tribe. Fire Tribe is evil.
But who pushed it? Who pushed it to the edge of insanity? Ice Tribe. Even Ice Tribe went evil.
Who will end it, and who will win? WHO is the good guy?

That. I do not know.

Her rights

His honor

Their freedom

Everyone's peace


Who deserves to win? I'd like to know you're thought of it. You've all helped me decide who started it, so tell me, who do you thnik should win it?!

Oh, I know, I'd feel very ashamed of myself if I took ideas from other people- right now, I'm not asking for ideas, I'm just asking what you think. Sounds weird, but I kinda already got planed out who might win. So please don't feel bad if it seems I'm cheating off of you, I'm not.

Lol I hate when my friends tell me "Oh, I think this should happen and their should be some magical blahblahblah" I'm like "nooo don't give me ideas! DDD:"

One thing ya could do is make them all against each other and kind of have a free-for-all.