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 Post subject: Banning.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:43 am 
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I have been thinking about this alot, and have seen it is possible - so I decided to suggest it here:

The Banning System:
I've seen different types of bans: Username's, IP's, E-mails Exc. And things like that, never really work.
So, I was thinking; When a member gets ban, they get an Automatic:
Site/Forum Ban.
Username Ban.
IP Ban.
E-mail Ban.
COMPUTER Ban.

Since than the usage of ****** fail, and the computer gets banned insted (Well... They both get banned).

What do you think? Good idea? Bad Idea? Please post your thoughts.

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 Post subject: Re: Banning.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:23 am 
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A really good idea,and extremely handy.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:18 am 
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Well in your opinon how do you suggest a "COMPUTER BAN" because since the only way that is possible is an ip ban and yea you know how to beat that one.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:25 am 
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A computer ban could be forbiddance to use a computer.

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.... So you expect steet and the mods to get up from their chair, walk to the country the persons in, and personally stop the person from using the computer? thats sounds illogical XDD ok to be serious there is not really a specific track on a computer... the person is assigned a personal ip address as a identification from other computers but unfortunately that ip is provided from the Internet service provider... and will be same in a network.. Finding an individual Part that is in one computers and not the others.. you can't really do that.. you would have to ban the model number.. which would be almost impossible to get..

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Let me rephrase what I mean by computer ban,what I was saying was,family members could forbid,or ground their son/daughter from using the computer.

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I was hoping you didn't say that... Why would a parent want to ban their son or daughter for doing this behavior? Its something mainly Not done.. if their parents were strict in the first place, they would have told them not to behave this way ahead of time.. So that sorta becomes irrelevant...

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As helpful as that may be, it will never happen. Like Mo said, parents should teach their children to behave anyway, but I doubt they'd really do anything. They would have to monitor EVERYTHING their kid does online, which is hard if they know how to ****. There would be nothing to go on. Plus I doubt they'd really care lol.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:54 pm 
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COMPUTER Ban.

Since than the usage of Proxie IP's fail, and the computer gets banned insted (Well... They both get banned).

It's plain impossible. There is no way to identify a computer. The only way would be to get the MAC address of the network chip, and it's impossible to do on the web (for security reasons, mainly.) That's a choice, there is no way to track someone. (and, in a way, it's a good thing)

I am still going to improve the system with what is possible to do, but there are very limited choice.

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They would have to monitor EVERYTHING their kid does online, which is hard if they know how to ****.

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steet wrote:
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COMPUTER Ban.

Since than the usage of Proxie IP's fail, and the computer gets banned insted (Well... They both get banned).

It's plain impossible. There is no way to identify a computer. The only way would be to get the MAC address of the network chip, and it's impossible to do on the web (for security reasons, mainly.) That's a choice, there is no way to track someone. (and, in a way, it's a good thing)

I am still going to improve the system with what is possible to do, but there are very limited choice.

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Seen it before, on a few sites - it includes computer banning. It can be done, however you would probably have to be better at coding than Bill Gates (XDD) for this.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:34 am 
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Conay_Wolfing_Balti wrote:
steet wrote:
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COMPUTER Ban.

Since than the usage of Proxie IP's fail, and the computer gets banned insted (Well... They both get banned).

It's plain impossible. There is no way to identify a computer. The only way would be to get the MAC address of the network chip, and it's impossible to do on the web (for security reasons, mainly.) That's a choice, there is no way to track someone. (and, in a way, it's a good thing)

I am still going to improve the system with what is possible to do, but there are very limited choice.

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Seen it before, on a few sites - it includes computer banning. It can be done, however you would probably have to be better at coding than Bill Gates (XDD) for this.


Very funny. But no, the sites you're talking about probably use another method that I already know (that I won't list here for security reasons), there is no 100% sure way to do it. Why do you think Wikipedia has all the same problems?
If you say that it is possible, then I would be interested to know how.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:41 am 
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[quote="steetVery funny. But no, the sites you're talking about probably use another method that I already know (that I won't list here for security reasons), there is no 100% sure way to do it. Why do you think Wikipedia has all the same problems?
If you say that it is possible, then I would be interested to know how.[/quote]

Hmm... Going around telling peoples perants is a good idea ;]

But here is a site withc DOES contain computer and IP banning: http://habbo.co.uk

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I think they probably just use another name...

I'm not that good with computers but from what I do know there is no way at all to identify a computer itself and ban it. Unless you're staff on that site and know exactly how it works I doubt they use a banning system which can identify a computer itself.

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UK teh white wolfer wrote:
I think they probably just use another name...

I'm not that good with computers but from what I do know there is no way at all to identify a computer itself and ban it. Unless you're staff on that site and know exactly how it works I doubt they use a banning system which can identify a computer itself.


You ban a computer via it's IP... I'm guessing

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UK teh white wolfer wrote:
I think they probably just use another name...

I'm not that good with computers but from what I do know there is no way at all to identify a computer itself and ban it. Unless you're staff on that site and know exactly how it works I doubt they use a banning system which can identify a computer itself.


You ban a computer via it's IP... I'm guessing


Balto Source already uses IP bans...

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