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Post subject: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:14 am |
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I tried to make the rules as objective as possible, taking account of everyone's opinions. However, this is a topic for which people are complaining in both ways : some say the rules are already too strict, others think that such fanfics should be banned totally. As I'm tired of seeing people complaining for or against that, I will probably have to take a radical decision. So, I let you answer to the poll.
And if you vote, please post a message with your opinion too.
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Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:14 pm |
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Löwin {Vampire} wrote: I think that deviant-sexual fan fictions should be allowed on the site. Most authors use sexual content as a big part of their stories, and I should think that members would be mature enough to handle such content; which is where I know that the problem comes in. I don't think that any severe harm could be done anyways. Not in the world that we live in today >.>
I vote no; Deviant-sexual content should not be banned. In my opinion, those who use sexual content as a big part of their stories fail. Miserably. If they seriously have to fall back on the use of such material to make their story interesting, then it's a good indication their project is already a failure. I think the deviant sexual content should be banned entirely. There is no need for anything more than the "mate mounts mate, fade to dark" method. Most people will be able to tell what's going on. Therefore, there's really no need to go into detail. And severe harm could be done, actually. If such content were allowed and was abundant, it would paint a horrible picture for AS. And for those who have yet to understand sexual reproduction, and how it works, will be unpleasantly surprised, especially if they take any inquiries from reading the material to their parents. I kinda dread to think how they might explain what they read. Hence, deviant sexual content. I suggest Steet defines his interpretation of "deviant sexual content." Just to assure that we're all on the same page. It will nullify any of those "Oh but you didn't say we couldn't...." kind of excuses, should this thing (hopefully) pass.
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Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:23 pm |
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Löwin {Vampire} wrote: I think that deviant-sexual fan fictions should be allowed on the site. Most authors use sexual content as a big part of their stories, and I should think that members would be mature enough to handle such content; which is where I know that the problem comes in. I don't think that any severe harm could be done anyways. Not in the world that we live in today >.>
I vote no; Deviant-sexual content should not be banned. Lowin and I share the same thoughts, then. I do not think that it should be banned completely.
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Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:12 pm |
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I don't think banned completely, I know this is a kids site and the movies didn't have it IN them but both movies had references to it (i.e. Steele and Jenna scene in the boiler room).
I think a better way would be to make adding an age on registration mandatory and disable the ability to change it after registration, obviously not saying WHY it's mandatory or people would put fake ones so they COULD read it, after registration it'd be too late. Accounts with a birth date above 18 could access them and all moderators and admin could, obviously. Keep the warning there too.
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Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:54 pm |
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UK teh white wolfer wrote: I don't think banned completely, I know this is a kids site and the movies didn't have it IN them but both movies had references to it (i.e. Steele and Jenna scene in the boiler room).
I think a better way would be to make adding an age on registration mandatory and disable the ability to change it after registration, obviously not saying WHY it's mandatory or people would put fake ones so they COULD read it, after registration it'd be too late. Accounts with a birth date above 18 could access them and all moderators and admin could, obviously. Keep the warning there too. People could lie about their age very easily. And some of the supporters of this content are below a8 to begin with. EDIT: Just to clarify for htose who don't know, deviant sexual content means homosexuality, incest (that's you-know-what between close relatives such as a brother and sister), zoophilia (same thing between a person and an animal), and other things of that nature. These things have been found on this site in the form of stories, "art," and even roleplays. Let me just say for the record that I have nothing against sexual content, insofar as two characters being attracted to each other and even having kids (legitimately) as long as it's handled modestly. But when it's a brother and sister, or you've got two guys or a dog and a woman doing it, that's a problem!
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Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:58 pm |
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Quote: I think a better way would be to make adding an age on registration mandatory and disable the ability to change it after registration, obviously not saying WHY it's mandatory or people would put fake ones so they COULD read it, after registration it'd be too late. Accounts with a birth date above 18 could access them and all moderators and admin could, obviously. Keep the warning there too. Asking for age is not a solution, they aren't that stupid. Besides, they would just make another account if they see they can't access some content.
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Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:07 pm |
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steet wrote: Quote: I think a better way would be to make adding an age on registration mandatory and disable the ability to change it after registration, obviously not saying WHY it's mandatory or people would put fake ones so they COULD read it, after registration it'd be too late. Accounts with a birth date above 18 could access them and all moderators and admin could, obviously. Keep the warning there too. Asking for age is not a solution, they aren't that stupid. Besides, they would just make another account if they see they can't access some content. Precisely.
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Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:00 pm |
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Well, that depends on what you mean exactly by "deviant-sexual" content.
If the fic has descriptive scenes about two characters actually doing inappropriate things...Then I think the fic should not be accepted.
Although, I think hints and "flirting" is fine. Anything really, as long as it's not the main theme of the fic or described.
For example, the scene with Steele and Jenna in the boiler room WAS sexual. I think these kinds of things in fics are perfectly fine.
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Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:52 pm |
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I think that it ought to be banned, for a number of reasons.
#1: This site (as some have pointed out) was founded as a family friendly site. It would go against the basic idea that was here in the first place to allow heavy sexual content in fics.
#2: I realize that no matter where this goes, it will offend someone. There is no getting around it, so I shall say what I will. I can't tell you how many times I get tired of reading the 'don't like, don't read' disclaimer. Let's face it: incest, homosexuality, and fornication are not topics that make a good plot line, no matter what. Most authors (unless they have a exceptional, near super human talent for writting) will find that it's impossible to write a tasteful story with deviant-sexual content as it's backbone (or even in it at all). In fact, I have yet to come across a well written story with content of that nature in it. There are plenty of other genres out there to explore that will satisfy almost everyone's tastes. And if someone just can't do without their sexual stories, they can post them on a different site. It's not really all that hard to do.
#3: I will state this here and now: there is a difference between very small hints and highly detailed accounts of intimacy (such as going on to describe every sound and every action that goes on in a intimate scene). Too much info can fall under the deviant-sexual area, and it's just not pleasent to read.
#4: Is it just me, or does anyone else notice that if someone starts it on the site it suddenly becomes a trend? (Saba/Dingo stories come to mind in this instance.) This is squashing creativity! (To be 'fair' I also notice that a second litter for Balto is a trend that gets annoying. We need to come up with good plot ideas and characters!)
#5: In light that some will write about rape/assault senes, I have to point out that it may not be a good story for someone who has suffered that sort of abuse. It brings back memories that the person would rather forget, and authors often manage to forget to add a disclaimer about it in the description. This is something that MUST change, if nothing else.
I rest my case. I don't want to argure about it, but I feel like I have to add my two cents in.
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Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:48 pm |
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I agree that they should be banned. What is a R rated fanfic pop-up allowing people to know (including kids as young as 9 and 10) be there, obviously they may still click ok, allowing themselves to view fan fics displaying some very discriptive detail. And since this IS a children's website, I am completely for banning these types of fan-fics completely. Notice, most members complaining that rules are just way to strict are the younger, foolish ones who often may break the rules just becuase they think they are "stupid". 
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Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:57 pm |
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I'm a huge fan of writing freedom, however this content has no place on BaltoSource. Yet I voted "No", because I believe that while most of it could be banned, we could induce some VERY strict rules on what could be allowed (which would, for instance, be fictions revolving around controversial romance).
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Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:00 pm |
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I think it should be banned because Balto is a KID'S movie, which means kids will be gettin gon this site. If htey accidently read these stories tehn they might ask their parents very awkward questions.
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