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 Post subject: Balto Under the ice
PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:33 pm 
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Hey. I don't know if anyone has seen this, and you might want to check your Balto movies on this since I couldn't find a picture. I think I may be dreaming and I want to know if I am or if someone else sees this too. When the ice is turned over, and Balto is under the ice in the water in the first movie here's what I see: When Jenna is digging at the ice and you see a little bit through the ice, I see Balto being dragged from the bottom side of the ice! I think it's Muk and Luk taking him off the ice to get him out, but I'm not sure if I'm just seeing things or if it really is there. Is anyone else seein this?

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 3:42 pm 
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I saw it!! I saw balto being grabbed by muk and luk. because you can see a furry ball of white when balto is grabbed. Look really close.

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:33 pm 
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I thought it was just him looking for an air hole.

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:30 am 
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I went through it frame-by-frame, and we can't see them being grabbed at all. This furry white ball is in fact Jenna's reflection off the ice.

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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:47 pm 
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it must be him losing consciencesness and being dragged by the current, its the only logical cause


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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:42 am 
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I found another pic. It's not just Jenna's reflection, look really closely...

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 4:04 pm 
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The confusion isn't about whether it's Balto or not as it clearly is him underneath the ice below Jenna but whether Muk and Luk can be seen carrying Balto away. I must admit that I will have to watch this again but I'm pretty sure that it's just Jenna's white underfur reflecting on the ice, which maybe you might have thought was Muk or Luk? Personally I think the reason he is moving away is cause he had just passed out from lack of oxygen and what little current there was in the frozen lake had carried him away.

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No, they weren't grabbing him. The reason why he was moving was most likely the water current beneath the ice.

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He wasn't breathing from an airhole. Balto drifted off where he was because he had fallen unconscious due to oxygen deprivation and probable water in the lungs or throat - it's the only scenario that explains why he was unconscious when dragged out of the lake, for sometime afterwards and only was revived after he threw up the water.

Although he could easily could have had brain damage from the oxygen deprivation, and probably should have been rested. Brings a thought as to whether perhaps he fell a bit ill after the run - he'd certainly be tired, that's for sure...

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:33 am 
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x_X_Emily_X_x wrote:
No, they weren't grabbing him. The reason why he was moving was most likely the water current beneath the ice.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:20 pm 
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That I have never noticed until now.

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