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I think that may be a part of it, what you described which could be attributed as envy or perhaps even jealousy (which is dumb - no one has any reason to be envious or jealous of anyone else...popularity does come with time, dedication and improved talent). Personally, I am not a competing artist, so envy and jealousy are irrelevant to me...as is the popularity of any artists here. To me, they are just people...they hold no special attention or regard from me.

However, there are other aspects to that, and you can see it in OTHER topics. And, in these cases, the complaints are usually QUITE warranted and valid. One of the most important, and relevant to Balto Source/Animation Source, is the tendency of the popular artists (regardless of the relative "talent" they may or may not have) to develop swelled heads...egos which border on the ridiculous. They become insufferable...self-absorbed...self-important...selfish...holier-than-thou...critical...bombastic...etc. (and can lead to them being mean-spirited bullies online). Who wants to deal with the ego of some person who happens to draw attention because of some artwork that is (or only may be) good in the opinions of some? I certainly don't. Especially given the fact that, among Balto and Lion King fan artists (most of whom have accounts on such art sites as deviantArt), there is very little real originality and unique style. In fact, most of the styles come down to knock-offs of one or more of four popular animation looks:

1. Disney/Don Bluth

2. anime/manga

3. other (Universal, Warner Brothers, MGM animated characters)

4. "furry"

To see fan artists spend so much time venting their spleens over the way others "copy" or "pirate" their styles, poses, etc. is unbelievable...and the attitudes laughable. Especially considering that most of these artists are hardly original themselves...and most have simply copied an existing style someone ELSE did (profesionally as opposed to amateurishly).

Yes, there are some fan artists whose work I like. But I am no drooling fan of any of them, nor do I worship at ANY of their feet...like so many kids and teens do here, on deviantArt and elsewhere, which only adds to the insufferability of some of those egos. Those same "worshippers" often make the situation worse by ganging up upon, and flaming and bullying, anyone who might have less than a worshipful attitude towards their favorite artists. Which those artists often do absolutely nothing to stop. (Need I remind anyone of how tense and temperamental the topic about Kay Fedewa's comic was on this board? That topic was an ideal example of what I've been saying. Just as many of the rants about art on this board have been.)

Then you've misunderstood me. I was simply saying that this is one art style in use in repetetive frequency by these so-called "original" fan artists. This statement was not a castigation of furries. The reason why the word furry is in quotes is because it is a term used by a certain community of people...and one which is not generally known. Most people might see furry art and simply call it "anthro".

Though you do know, by now (from past history), my personal opinion of that community in general. And we needn't rehash it, right? I can't change who I am and how I feel about that, and neither can you change who you are or how you feel about certain things which don't generally sit well with you (few people can). Anyway, I prefer the peaceful interaction, don't you? I'm sure we'd both like it to stay that way. In any case, my personal opinion of furries in general did not enter into my previous statement. If I was castigating anyone, I was going after egomaniacal, namby-pamby fan artists (who are but a percentage of all fan artists...people who generally DON'T have bad egos) who have allowed the popularity they've gained, from the overreaction of a handful of minors to their amateur works of "art", to go completely to their heads.

EDIT: I'd like to share with all the readers of this topic a very interesting article, which appeared on MSN's home page this morning, which is relevant not only to my initial complaint in this topic, but many others posted by myself AND others on this forum. It's...it's as if the people referenced in that article, who are problem cases, are Balto Source members themselves! Or learned how to behave on the internet from this community! See for yourself (pay particular attention to the examples on pp. 1-2 of the story, which are VERY much like the kinds of behavior seen on this site...of course, so is the example on pg. 3...and that particular example goes to what I pointed out about oddball kids who fawn over a fan artist, and then gang up on anyone who dares to say anything less than worshipful stuff about that artist they love so much): http://tech.msn.com/news/articlepcw.aspx?cp-documentid=6411895&icid=tg6411895&GT1=40000

Then you've misunderstood me. I was simply saying that this is one art style in use in repetetive frequency by these so-called "original" fan artists. This statement was not a castigation of furries. The reason why the word furry is in quotes is because it is a term used by a certain community of people...and one which is not generally known. Most people might see furry art and simply call it "anthro".

Though you do know, by now (from past history), my personal opinion of that community in general. And we needn't rehash it, right? I can't change who I am and how I feel about that, and neither can you change who you are or how you feel about certain things which don't generally sit well with you (few people can). Anyway, I prefer the peaceful interaction, don't you? I'm sure we'd both like it to stay that way. In any case, my personal opinion of furries in general did not enter into my previous statement. If I was castigating anyone, I was going after egomaniacal, namby-pamby fan artists (who are but a percentage of all fan artists...people who generally DON'T have bad egos) who have allowed the popularity they've gained, from the overreaction of a handful of minors to their amateur works of "art", to go completely to their heads.

EDIT: I'd like to share with all the readers of this topic a very interesting article, which appeared on MSN's home page this morning, which is relevant not only to my initial complaint in this topic, but many others posted by myself AND others on this forum. It's...it's as if the people referenced in that article, who are problem cases, are Balto Source members themselves! Or learned how to behave on the internet from this community! See for yourself (pay particular attention to the examples on pp. 1-2 of the story, which are VERY much like the kinds of behavior seen on this site...of course, so is the example on pg. 3...and that particular example goes to what I pointed out about oddball kids who fawn over a fan artist, and then gang up on anyone who dares to say anything less than worshipful stuff about that artist they love so much): http://tech.msn.com/news/articlepcw.aspx?cp-documentid=6411895&icid=tg6411895&GT1=40000

Answers for those stupid quotes:

'Popular artisrs always get what they want'
Because you obey them.

'OMG youre so popular, a lot of people visit youre gallery , no one likes my art.'
Do we have to care about it?Your problem.


'Im not popular because I make requests for everyone.'
If the popular artists accepted requests,they'd receive more than 1000 requests everyday.They're not machines.