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 Post subject: Indian Dogs and other WOLF Breeds
PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:24 pm 
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We all argue that if you want to own a wolf, you should get a husky or malamute instead, as wolves are “wild and dangerous creatures that can’t be trusted”. As much as I have tried to defend my favorite breed, your opinions are firm and unchanging.

Well, hopefully, this will enlighten some of you!

I bring to you, the domesticate wolf! Also known as The Native American Indian Dog.

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Breed description for NAID: Webbed feet for snow travel and swimming. Large expressive eyes, medium long to long triangular shaped head, wide between the eyes, extending down to a slender muzzle. Highly intelligent, sensitive animal. Very loyal to family members very good with children. Not dog-aggressive with other breeds of dogs. Usually a stern "NO" will stop them in their tracks. Used as hunters of small and large game and as sled animals and pack animals. A very loyal and protective family companion. (I bet some of you didn’t know that before horses were introduced, the Native Americans used WOLVES trained to herd the buffulo…yeah, they helped man hunt. Anyway, all this describes is a properly trained house wolf).

These animals are CLEARLY wolfdogs, but don’t let the breeders know you’re aware that these dogs are wolves, because they’ll swear up and down that these animals haven’t got one drop of wolf blood in them. Folks, rather then trust some ‘breeder’, trust your own eyes. You can actually identify exactly which of these ‘purebreds’ has wolf in them and which has very little, if any at all.

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Even real Native Americans have had trouble in the past distinguishing some of these dogs from wolves.

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In the mid 1800’s H.H.Sibley noted the difference in size and appearance amongst the different tribes. All dogs were large, with sharp erect ears. In shape they vary only little from the wolf and are equally as large and strong.
Some like the Siouan dogs are wolf colored and have long slender legs and a surly disposition. “ In wandering through the prairies I have often mistaken wolves for the Siouan dogs.”


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Their voices are not the normal European dog bark, but a howl like that of the wolf.


Quotes and pics taken from http://www.majesticview1.com/NAIDs/the_hidatsa.htm


But wait! The NAID is only one of the new wolf ‘breeds’ out there! There’s also the Pablo Dog, the American Indian Dog (which is a dingo, coyote, kelpie, border collie cross…also known as a MUTT) and many new “hybrids” including the Sibercaan (Siberian Husky/Caanan Dog….another halfbreed) and the Siberian Indian Dog (Siberian Husky/ NAID). All fancy shmancy names for a wolf/dog mix. The breeder of these animals likes to use the word ‘hybrid’ when describing her dogs. I wonder why…….


Let’s take a closer look at the very different American Indian Dog.

Image and Image They’re supposedly the same breed; a purebred, but one looks like a wolfdog, while the other resembles a….heeler? Very mutt-like characteristics to me. Pics taken from http://www.indiandogs.com/gallery.htm



Okay, first off, you can’t create a breed that has already been created (mainly focused at the person who owns the Majestic View website. She takes FULL CREDIT for creating the NAID breed. Get off your high horse, lady.)

Secondly, you can’t call a mutt a purebred. And it’s clear that from these pics, these dogs are MUTTS, as they are not consistent in appearance.

Thirdly; don’t be embarrassed that the dogs you breed are part wolf. If you have such a problem with it, then don’t breed them; that simple; you don’t have to LIE about it.


The point of this topic is not only to show my continuous support of wolves and wolfdogs, but also to show that your ‘purebreds’ aren’t as pure as you think they are. In fact, I’ll bet that most of you who own husky-type dogs are unaware that, somewhere down the not-too-distant line, your dog is part wolf. A mighty surprise for any wolf-haters out there.

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 Post subject: Re: Indian Dogs and other WOLF Breeds
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:37 pm 
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This looks very similar to the Wolf=Dog topic. Shouldn't you merge these?
I mean, the Indian ('native American')-dog argument seems to support the thesis you put up on the before mentioned topic.
If not, you should maybe add a warning that you don't want to do that discussion all over and just want to talk about the Indian-dog.
That said, I was wondering whether you knew about when the Native Americans exactly domesticated the wolf (1500's? 1500'sBC? Anything in between? Before?), 'cause I wouldn't know. I might be relevant to determine the distance between the wild wolf and the Indian-dog.

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