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 Post subject: Steele's Breed
PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:37 pm 
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Please excuse me if this has been discussed before (if so, can you point out the topic?), but this is something that has always bugged me, and I was wondering what everyone's opinions were.

Ok, so I've always had a thing for Steele... I like the bad guys, what can I say? heh. Anyways, back in the day, I ended up buying a short book adaptation of Balto that tied in with the film. In it, it referred to Steele as being a malamute.

However, Alaskan malamutes do -not- have blue eyes. In fact, if you look up the AKC breed standard for mals, blue eyes are disqualified in the show ring. A mal with blue eyes highly signifies that somewhere in its pedigree, it has been mixed with a Siberian husky (which can and do have blue eyes). Therefore it is unlikely that Steele is a purebred malamute. Which I find ironic, given the fact that he taunts Balto for being a half-breed...

Now, I -understand- this is an animated character and that the animators likely didn't know this tiny bit of information regarding the differences in breeds, but as I said... it just has always bugged me. :P

However, if that book I am basing this on is wrong and Steele IS actually supposed to be a purebred Siberian or "husky", please correct me. Given his character ego, I understand it's important for him to be a purebred -something-. To tell you the truth, I usually just consider Steele to be an overgrown Siberian anyway, given the blue eyes deal. Also, his body/coat type is more like a big Siberian than a malamute... to me anyway. I've raised Siberian huskies for years, trust me.

Example for comparison:

A typical Alaskan malamute:
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Notice the longer hair. This dog is also far more stocky/broader boned all over than Steele, who just seems to be tall and well-muscled. Mals also have broader set ears (not close together and high on the head as Steele's are - a Siberian trait) and shorter, more compact bodies (Steele is more long-bodied). And mals have more tightly curled tails that are normally always up over the back when standing - Siberians will wear their tails either loosely curled over their back or down in repose depending on their mood, as in this picture below >


A typical Siberian husky (actually one of my own, Nanook (RIP):
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What do you think Steele most resembles?

Curious to hear your thoughts... Maybe I'm just too detailed obsessive. :lol:


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Erm, no, there ARE blue eyed malamutes, that eye deal has been discussed. Blue eyed malamutes weren't allowed in those shows, and were a 'fault'. And, it's just rare for a blue eyed malamute, though there is many. Ask any malamute, husky REAL expert, and they'll tell you. I have never ever heared of the mixed with husky thing, though malamutes CAN have blue eyes, and yes pure breds.

Eyes are almond-shaped and brown; blue eyes are sometimes found, but will disqualify the dog in shows.
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Anywho, I THINK there's a topic like this, but if it is - I'll leave that for the mods or other people.

Personally, I don't think it matters, but I think he's..... a malamute now. I used to think husky, but not anymore.

He's bigger than all the huskies, and alaskan malamutes are huge, bigger than huskies. And well, he's fluffy..


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Thanks for the info. I had always heard that mals with blue eyes signify mixtures. I probably should have said that I am -not- an expert on mals in my post. Because I am not. I raise, breed, and show Siberians. In the Siberian community, folks will tell you that mals with blue eyes are usually not pure. If you see a shelter dog listed as a mal for instance, but it has blue eyes, it is (usually) a good indication it's mixed or just a misidentified sibe. This is just my experience in the area, given what other Siberian breeders have told me. I've also never seen a proven purebred mal with blue eyes. Anybody got pix and a pedigree of one?

But anyway - mal ppl, I stand corrected then. And I apologize. As I said, this was something that always bugged me. I've always wanted to discuss it with fellow fans, but the internet wasn't really around back in '95 like it is today...

I think my original point is still left intact though. Regarding the characterization of Steele, I mean. So if he is indeed supposed to be a purebred malamute, and he has blue eyes, that means he is less than perfect. Disregarding whether or not mals -can- have blue eyes, if he does have blue eyes and is purebred, he has a fault. For Steele, who considers himself perfect, as I said... I find it ironic.

That is all. Just trying to have a friendly detailed debate/discussion. If this is too serious a discussion for an animated film, then well, I'll leave it at this.

p.s. On a lighter note, I do think it would be a fun fanfic idea that Steele happened to discover he wasn't purebred after all. It would kinda reshape his ideals a bit, don't ya think? Certainly would be a blow to his ego. *L*


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