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Post subject: I need help with my golden retriever Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:25 pm |
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I have a 2 and half year old golden retriever. He is well trained, but I can't take him for walks because he is so hyper and will pull me around and run off with me. I have a choke collar for him, and it does help some but not much. I need suggestions to help me out!
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:14 pm |
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You should go to the pet store nearest to you, and ask them about a thing called a Prong or a Pinch collar.
Now, they may look harsh to you, but they are really not, and don't hurt the dog at all. The people at the pet store might tell you to put it on your arm and pull it. It might hurt a bit for you, but remember, dogs have thicker and stronger skin. Your dog may yelp in shock or confusion, but it's not likely. What you do is tug it lightly when the dog gets hyper like that, it works great.
If that doesn't work or it's not something you want to try on your dog, just try sitting him down everytime he pulls, and holding him until he calms down. It isn't as affective as the prong collar though.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:15 pm |
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Michigan dogs  mine is the same. now for shawdow I would say when he starts pulling say heal! if shawdow know's how to heal and tel him to sit.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:26 pm |
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I'm not fond of choke collars or prong collars. I've always been taught, by trainers, to give a sharp, quick tug on the leash (not so as to hurt the dog, but to get their attention), and to say "NO!" in a deep, perhaps even growly voice. The deep, growly voice asserts your authority and displeasure to the dog in a form of communication he (or she) can understand, and the tug gets their attention. Then you can have them heel (IF they know how, meaning that they've been trained to do it).
My dog has been through obedience classes, and STILL he does this occasionally (especially if there is another dog within sight, even though he's been neutered). But I CAN get him to heel and behave himself if I am firm with him. And it takes much repetition.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:11 pm |
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you should call that Dog Whisper guy
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:36 pm |
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Get a Head collar, they are sold by brands like Halti or Gentle Leader. They give more control over a dog's direction.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:26 pm |
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KingBaltofriend Werewolf wrote: you should call that Dog Whisper guy
Thats what I was going to say 
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:55 pm |
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There is no need to call the Dog Whisper, since it's just such alittle thing that happens to every dog that wasn't raised with leashes. My dog sits there, and don't move, while my other dog does the same thing as yours. (I don't really walk them, anyways.)
Just grab a leash, go in the backyard, and walk with em. Whenever he pulls, then shout out a big nasty 'NO!'. Keep on doing this in the backyard until he knows better, and if it don't work, then get a nice Harness collar to keep good hold of him and spray him with a water bottle(unless the dog likes water), and keep spraying and shouting out NO until he listens. If this don't work, then do what Chasity said. I ain't no dog expert.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:19 am |
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BaltoSeppala wrote: I'm not fond of choke collars or prong collars. I've always been taught, by trainers, to give a sharp, quick tug on the leash (not so as to hurt the dog, but to get their attention), and to say "NO!" in a deep, perhaps even growly voice. The deep, growly voice asserts your authority and displeasure to the dog in a form of communication he (or she) can understand, and the tug gets their attention. Then you can have them heel (IF they know how, meaning that they've been trained to do it).
My dog has been through obedience classes, and STILL he does this occasionally (especially if there is another dog within sight, even though he's been neutered). But I CAN get him to heel and behave himself if I am firm with him. And it takes much repetition. Yes, I agree. You should work without training tools such as choke chains and prong collars first. It's all about the voice, deep, commanding but not 'snappy' and demanding. Also, don't say his name in a bad tone or he will associate it with discipline and won't respond. Aluewolf15 wrote: You should use one of those Harness collars. They work very well and they don't hurt the dog. I have a lab and is is one independent, strong dog and it keeps him from going anywhere when he's on the leash.
Actually, harnesses aren't really that great. They don't hurt the dog and they relieve pressure on the neck but they aren't very good for strong dogs. You see, some dogs like the strain and will pull harder because they like the idea of pulling something.. like a husky. They are better used for dogs that pull, but not particulary strong and boisterous dogs.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:46 am |
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Starsky wrote: Aluewolf15 wrote: You should use one of those Harness collars. They work very well and they don't hurt the dog. I have a lab and is is one independent, strong dog and it keeps him from going anywhere when he's on the leash. Actually, harnesses aren't really that great. They don't hurt the dog and they relieve pressure on the neck but they aren't very good for strong dogs. You see, some dogs like the strain and will pull harder because they like the idea of pulling something.. like a husky. They are better used for dogs that pull, but not particulary strong and boisterous dogs.
That is true. However, I have found that, for my Australian Shepherd (a medium-sized but deceptively-strong young male), who LOVES to pull when attached to a traditional leash, that the harness works wonders. The moment I pull back on the leash (even slightly), when it's attached to a body harness, he stops. Completely. And then usually turns and looks up at me...which is just what he's supposed to do.
Of course, you're right. It does depend upon the breed. I don't know that size matters. I think it's the breed, and what they were bred to do.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:46 am |
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When I put a harness on my dog and try walking her, she slides on the ground and stops to try to get it off. They're kind of expencive here too, $20 for one that fits a large dog.
You could try using your voice, or pulling your dogs leash when he/she pulls, but if you want immediate results, try the 'prong' collar.
It works almost instantly.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:53 pm |
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Chasity wrote: You could try using your voice, or pulling your dogs leash when he/she pulls, but if you want immediate results, try the 'prong' collar.
It works almost instantly.
True, it would work instantly but I think that they should only be used as a last resort. Change of tone and general handling without use of tools should first be used. It's worked with quite a few dogs I know. Just the simple, firm tone.
Choke chains and prong collars are good but, yeah, last resort. Like with my dad's dog. Very stubborn but the choke chain works, took a few tugs but it works. I don't use these on my dog because he's too gentle and they'd probably really scare him. He responds to the firm tone.
Sometimes vocal discipline can be more effective than physical..
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