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I'm making changes to the fan characters section, which I hope will be ready tomorrow. And which will address THIS specific matter.

It'll be putting a band aid on a broken bone.

Sure, people can then choose not to see them but I'd bet any money it'll soon become a problem with people saying their characters aren't sparkle dogs - even if they are.
Then this can of worms will be opened all over again! Yay.

They should never have been allowed in the first place.
I know you want to please all of the members here Steet, but you can't please everyone all of the time and by allowing these you're only helping ruin your own website.

Soon this place will be full of kids and young teens who want only to argue with each other over pointless sparkle dogs and bad art while all of other older and contributing members will get more and more fed up of seeing it everywhere.

I'm sorry, but the characters don't even have to be related to balto? This is just a dA with a small member count. Ridiculous. I just saw a Inuyasha clone wolf. How does that have anything do to with Balto?

My thoughts exactly. I don't know how this new feature "fixes" anything. All it really did was push Balto Source (or whatever source you come here for) away from what they are supposed to be about, to "OC Source". And all that really said to me is "Wow. Steet really doesn't care anymore." All this new "feature" is is a band-aid. People are going to claim their horrid looking sparklewolf isn't really a sparklewolf and then cry when it gets moved. ("BAWWWW! Some evil scientist did expriments and now he has wings! BAWWWW!!!" I've seen this on dA and just... no.)

Seems the older memebers who actually contribute more didn't even want sparklewolves to be allowed here in the first place. But Steet didn't listen. (Actually if I remember, on that news post he pretty much only put "lawl lookit all the coments!" on it).

And just for the record people; I don't mind [GOOD] sparkledogs. But they don't belong here or on any of the other Sources. And the OLD character rules stated that. If it's really that hard for someone to make a fan character without using every color of the rainbow, well, they need to take a lesson in creativity.

This is the rant board, and I have ranted. :]

I agree with this. Out of sight, out of mind. It's very much a band-aid fix... That isn't going to solve anything. I may not be able to see them, but I KNOW they're still there, and they don't belong here at all period. The other day I saw someone ask Steet if sparkle horses and sparkle lions were allowed...Sparkle anything is allowed.

This isn't Balto Source anymore, Balto fan works are rare to come by. All my stuff is Balto related, I do not do renders, and all this other stuff. It's all about the characters now. I guess the 1:4 ratio doesn't exist anymore? AS is everyone's OC source now I guess, and that's just sad. All you see in galleries are there character drawings. Now horrid sparkle mutts.

Though I do feel guilty for having a sparkle dog of my own. Bser, the site mascot that I made in a contest and won. I made him blue to match the site. http://www.animationsource.org/balto/en ... /4862.html I know he isn't like horrible, but he's still 100% sparkle dog.

My only other character, Mighty, is a gray wolf. (She doesn't have a character page.) She looks a little something like this.





She's totally not a sparkle dog. =)

I personally do own some sparkle dogs (not hideous, horrible over the top ones mind you), but I'm never going to bring them here because this is not where they belong.I'm keeping them on FP and DA. I think it's completely wrong that they are allowed here at all, but I'm just gonna let it slide, because I doubt Steet would want to here it really :/

This. Also, Steet, the poll says that the majority of people do not want sparkledogs here, so you may want to take that into consideration.

This a million times.

I have sparkly characters, I even have a fursona designed specifically to BE sparkly, so I'm not against sparkledogs as a whole.
I am against sparkle characters on AS. Until we have a CareBears or MyLittlePony source or something and you can put them on there. Where they belong and fit in.

WHYYYY can't you people just be happy with a fan site that is KEPT as a fan site?

Congratulations.
AS is officially becoming full of suck and fail.

THISTHISTHIS.

How does the new system fix ANYTHING? The problem was crappy characters, unrelated characters, and fugly sparkledogs getting in so the solution is to... automatically accept them all?

No. This site and the webmaster have officially lost their bleepin' marbles. I used to love this site, now it's just a cesspool of whiny kids and their ugly creations.

Why not just rename Balto Source so its name is no longer a lie? I think "Wolf Deviantart" has a nice ring to it.

Seriously, Steet. This fixes nothing. And no, filtering it doesn't count. Hiding the problem doesn't make the problem go away. Everyone except for like three whiny brats wanted sparkledogs in and instead of going with the majority you caved into the demands by the kids. Wonderful. Hope alienating the last rational part of your userbase works out for you.

Animation Source has turned into a giant pile of disappointment. Hope you liked ruining it, sparklebrats.

This statement echoes against more than just sparkle dogs. However, in the present context, I cannot but agree. Though I would be inclined to agree as it relates to ANYTHING which pulls this site away from being a fan site, and not, well, anything else.

But I will stand apart from pretty much everyone else here in one respect...I do not envy steet the irreconcilable difficulties in trying to please everyone. Because the old adage holds ever so true in this situation (and countless others that Animation Source has experienced) - you cannot please all of the people all of the time. It is simply a forelorned hope, without final resolution.

If steet has any hair left, I am pretty sure he's yanking the rest of it out by now.

There is a fine line between good, clean, dog and wolf realistic creativity, and then there's out of control 'I'm gonna make a rainbow wolf-dog or dog of full wolf or whatever, and say it's related to the Balto universe because this rainbow something or other is Balto's son, daughter, cousin, uncle, aunt, or whatever, so because of that it should be accepted into the Balto fan character section'

If someone creates a character like that, my gosh! You might as well accept every rainbow fan character under the sun! It's insane. If you wanna be creative, be creative, but also be realistic about it. If you're creating a wolf character that somehow ties in to the Balto universe, do some color studies. Study a real wolf's color and think about it in your head how they look. Do you see any green or blue or pink wolves about the world? Use your common sense, not your want to choose any crazy color.

A band-aid is not gonna fix this broken bone. If anything, what's on the band-aid that is supposed to stick to the surface of the broken bone won't last very long.

they.don't.belong.on.this.site.

One wonders why they are still here.

but as JC said...You cannot please all the people all the time...

oh well, this is as close to a compromise as can get.

Commence the downward spiral! This is just taking the sites another step into just being general sites instead of fan sites.

If this is what is going to happen, I won't be contributing fan works on here anymore. I will put my stuff on dA where it is more suitable for it to be (oh how ironic!). I'll post from time to time and help out on things but this is ridiculous.

If we want to solve this problem (and this is just a suggestion) maybe Steet, the mods, and some trusted members (trying people from both sides of the argument) and just try to figure it out calmy. The only reason I'm guessing Steet created this new 'band aid' was to keep peace.

I remember the old BS. Where no one was depressed, no one left after only being a member for only a month, and all my fave artists were sill on the site. There were practical characters with cunning historys and interesting designs and personalities.
I want that BS back, and the only way were going to get it back if if we all take a chill pill, talk it out, and recreate limits.

This whole SPARKLE DOG stuff started with some interesting characters being spammed by members who were out of line, and thought they had the same powers as mods. New members need more limits. Too many characters are created because they look cool and then are never used again.

Everyones tired of this problem, we just want it fixed.

So let's have the mods, some members from both sides, and Steet get together and REALLY sort his out.