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NaturalAlliance
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:27 am |
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I don't know where I'm going with this, so disregard what I said. Sorry.
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Tamaskawolf-BP
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:30 am |
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Arrowe
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:11 am |
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I have different opinions about animal testing and such.
I mean, I don't want poor, innocent animals being locked up in cages and get tested on; but then again, if it's for medical purposes, I would rather have a rat that only lives for like 10 years die than a human that can live for 100 years.
And no, I disagree with 'humans being more important than animals'. I don't know why, but animals were here first, and atleast they're not destroying our beautiful Earth.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:15 am |
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Arrowe wrote: And no, I disagree with 'humans being more important than animals'. I don't know why, but animals were here first, and atleast they're not destroying our beautiful Earth.
Yes, I agree completely. Animals don't do anything that hurts the Earth! And if they do, it's only because of Instinct and Survival
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Lil Muntewr
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:24 am |
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Well. I really don't have much more to say.
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Post subject: umm Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:01 pm |
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Well if theres not much more to say.And Zergswarms is looking for a fight.This topic is just going to end up in a flame of war.And everybody on here is talking trash about cat wich is no way for you guys to act.Grow up im going to go ask for this topic to be locked.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:11 pm |
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I agree but I'd rather die than see a animal die
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Kari
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:07 pm |
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I think the topic is about animal testing, not about what you think about Cat. You guys are talking like it's a private chat and no one can read what you're saying. Do you think Cat will be happy when she sees what you've said about her? See, even going off topic like this turns into a war, and we end up with another set of enemies who are at each others' throats.
I think the reason this turned into a fight was that Orlando's first post was very biased and didn't give other people enough room to say their opinion. I disagree with her theory too. People are allowed to have their own opinions. It's alright to debate about the opinion and to give reasons to support yourself, but slapping them in the face and telling them that they're wrong is downright rude. That's what I see here. No one is right, and no one is wrong. It's an opinion, not a fact.
Tamaskawolf-BP wrote: *quivers* you know this is taking every SINGLE ounce of self control to not scream at you and everyone else. *deep breath* animals testing is compleatly wrong. First of all, Mice and rats are just as alive as dogs, cats, monkeys, and guinie pigs! They just are smaller! And Animal testing isn't even nessisary. Even if it does hurt the animal, it doesn't mean that it will hurt people. Our skin is different from theres. Second, if it doesn't hurt the animals, then they still have to live in horrible cages *shakes with rage*  NEVER! by eny way should ENY animal, from a mouse to a dog, have to live like that!  And don't say something like "HOw do you know that" BEcause I DO know that! I reaserched Animal Labs once. And animal labs are an ever growing problem, and the last thing that all of us animal lover need is someone saying "Hey! Animal labs ARE good!" I'll cut myself off there before I REALLY say something mean 
Okay...that's what probably started some sort of disagreement. I agree with you; people usually misjudge smaller animals and treat them worse simply because of their size. I find that wrong. They are just as important as every other living thing on Earth, including humans. Animals are not meant to be our decoys and test things for us. They have a purpose. Spraying them in the face with a chemical or drug and then waiting for their reaction is inhumane and cruel. Of course, I'd rather kill an animal than kill a friend or family member (I don't know why. Animals are just as important to me as the people I love, so why I'd kill them, I'm not sure. It's hard to describe.). Humans just need to be reminded that they are not in control.
Don't kill me.
Oh, and Tamaska, there are other ways to explain your opinion without getting angry.
(Wee, rant. I'm done now.)
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Tamaskawolf-BP
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 4:10 pm |
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yes, I know Kari.....but I think I should work on self control a bit. Its just, when I see something, like this, that I STRONGLY dissagree and think its compleatly wrong (with all due respect, I don't feel like getting into a fight today, I'm just saying what I think) then I tend to really "fly off the handle  (as the saying goes) and everyone else who disagreed with animal testing, I agree compleatly 
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NaturalAlliance
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Post subject: Re: umm Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:01 pm |
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Panama_WhiteWolf wrote: Well if theres not much more to say.And Zergswarms is looking for a fight.This topic is just going to end up in a flame of war.And everybody on here is talking trash about cat wich is no way for you guys to act.Grow up im going to go ask for this topic to be locked.
I am not looking for a fight. Shame for you to think I would.
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Lil Muntewr
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:52 pm |
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I knew this topic was going to get locked sooner or later. But everybody on the first page was so nice. Even though you don't agree you still shouldn't be rude.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:50 am |
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When I said that it was right, that's not what I ment...
What I ment to say is that, it's not right in my eyes, but it is nessessary..I agree that mice and rats are no different then dogs and cats, but I think it is better that they test on them instead, because there is way more of them...and..I dont know if this is true or not but I think that they only use the sick/hurt animals for testing, and it still doesnt make it right, because they still should have a change at getting healthy again..but I think that it's better if they use dogs/cats or stuff that are due to be put down, because I think that putting them down is worse then testing stuff on them...so if there going to put them down, they might as well use them for testing or something first...but I still dont approve of it..because I think it's disgusting..and for the people that test on cosmetics..I think that is wrong. animals are just as good as humans, and shouldnt be used for cosmetics, and like I said before, it's not like they can sell it to them anyway.....
Would you rather have one animal die, or thousands, maybe even millions of humans/animals die because they cant get proper meds? I know what Id pick...the only animal testing I want to shoot people for is tabacco companies, because, humans dont need it, animals dont need it, I think they if they really want to test something like that, then they should test it on themselves, if they die, I really dont care, because tabacco kills millions of people each, what, year? as for cosmetics, it is wrong, but as far as I know, it doesnt involve making the animals eating anything, inhaling anything or anything like that, they just put it on their fur, and it's no worse then if a dog has to get a dye-job to be in a movie or something. and I agree, their skin is different then ours, and the results will be different..and I really dont know what to say about that, but, stop flaming her, everyone is intitled to their own opinions.
anyway, if that post even made sence to you, I'm basically just saying that if the dogs are due to be put down, then they should be put to use...also I dont buy makeup/shampoo/purfume or anything like that, if they test on animals, I always read the bottles very carefully to make sure they dont...anyway..dont get mad..this is supposed to be about expressing your opinions, and nowadays when somebody tries to, they get flamed for it, and that isnt fair...
oh, and when I said that about them being 'put to use' if the animal is being put down because it's sick, then they shouldnt, because that will make it suffer even more, and I dont like that
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:15 pm |
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hmm i dont think animal testing is good, i know people need to test medicines on somthing but im not sure it should be animals because its not that they just get tested on its that the get locked up in cages for who knows how long and have a terrible life
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:31 pm |
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Well Dakotah they do use animals that are to be put down for something, after they are put down they are used for disections, witch help teach people a better understanding of organs. And dont say this is wrong because this is the best thing they can do, it heps us, because they are going to be put down anyway so why not get some use out of it?
The same happenes when a person gives their body to science.
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