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Sure, anything that you can do to help is accepted with open arms. Here's the link to the forums. Please be aware that it is still under heavy construction:

http://stopanimalcruelty.phpbbnow.com/index.php

I'm also working on creating the petition at the moment. Thank you to all who join.

Oh wow, thank you so much for creating a board for this, Kari! I'm going to join right away!

Good luck on the petition! =3

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Thanks for your support Harley. :wink: The petition is just about done, but I have a long speech to write! :lol:

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at some point we should reintroduce torture to our legal system... shouldn't we?


Yes!
Since the release of the movie 'Hostel'(gruesome movie about Torture) ive been seeing more and more things about torturing. And it's not putting it down.
I thought they had gone way to far, stuffing kittens into jars. Now stomping them to death!?
These people are sick in the head.

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Those who are heartless enough to harm animals may also be potential threats to the people around them


This is in everyway true. Ever heard that people who torture animals, often become cereal killers?

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I may not have thrown up (I've got a pretty strong stomach) but even so, I had to stop after a certain point. That is sick and wrong, and deeply disturbing to the human psyche...people who get pleasure out of such things need to go see a shrink or be locked away in a room far far away...very far far away...


Aniu_Blade, pluto isn't far enough away. Try the next galaxy Andromeda(over 2000 light years away) then you getting close.

I didn't puke or cry at this. I merely got angry. When i first found out about animal cruelty it was Puppy mills. Where they put dogs and leave them. Never feeding or taking care of. Simply storing animals as if they were mere packages. Then i later found out that some people are acctually sick enough to eat dogs and cats. Shoving Kittens in bottles, crushing cats. . . Am i wrong in saying these people should be in mental hospitals?
The idea of being 'arroused' by this is uterly discusting.
She's even crushing this poor creature on what seems to be a street! By breaking the law of cruelty to animals, my opinion on this is, you now have a very good reason to retaliate and tackle the ******** and beat them senseless.
Heck, if i saw this happening on my streets id take that person down and stop on their face. Maybe then they might think twice about hurting a defensless animal.

You see someone beating a dog and the dog defends himself. Biting its beater. Some people would think to help this person. Thinking the animal is obviously unstable and unsafe.
Its all wrong. It's called 'Self-Defense' If the dog is unstable, its only reasonable to conclude that the dogs beater had tortured it so bad, it had gone insane.

Though im disgusted at this, and now wish my curiosity hadn't gotten to me again, i guess the only way this can end, or at least decrease, is to show people this. Open the worlds eyes to this. This is a problem way to serious that seems to have gone pratically unnoticed for far too long and needs to be addressed.

Something dramatic has to happen. To make a differance, something big has got to happen. Like. . . . . a KKK. Except being racist to blacks, it punishes those who are cruel to animals.
(Just thinking outside the box here)Say a group that has the power to find anyone on any part of the globe, at any given time. Enough influence to become world-wide. Therefore, finding anything at all about someone being cruel to animals, they could simply track them down, and punish them. Brutely, cruely, to death. . . maybe death is too harsh, take that back, maybe its to harsh for first time offensers
But if they kill an animal, they loose a limb. Heck, castration would be fine too.

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That is just disturbing.... Good luck on the petion guys I hope it works!

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That is just disturbing.... Good luck on the petion guys I hope it works!

Thanks. :wink: I might even make a separate topic for the petition in the Animals section. That should increase the amount of signatures. I still have to write the introduction to the petition and the speech, but I'm almost done. I'll post it on this forum and on the AACG forums as soon as I can.

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The petition is posted on both forums, and next is the donations program.

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Yah like Balto I dont cry or throw up. But my arms go numb when I see things like that, I dont know why though.


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Yah like Balto I dont cry or throw up. But my arms go numb when I see things like that, I dont know why though.


Loss of blood curculation. I get that in cold weather

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I never felt that way before OMFG. I hope she gets landed in jail. I hope thats not just some sick joke.


To some its funny and I hope they all get time.

If you don't like this never see a movie called faces of death the reason is because of this guy who made them, what he does is he goes and films death like people being splaterd on car and cemy windows, same with animals, he filed this one koren family who got a really nice husky and what they did was unbreble they took the husky and put a knife in its chest not deep so it was still alive and slid the knife down,

the father after sliting down the huskys chest and tummy wich the husky is still alive and yelping in pain pulls the skin apart the husky still alive and the guy who made the movies zoomed on on the insides and the poor husky was still alive, the heart was still beating and the lungs were still working then the dad was like playing with the inside like griping them tight and yelping was so loud but finaly the dad put the knife through the poor huskyes beating heart.

They cooked the meat and insdes and they all eat even the guy who made all the fases of death movies.

I got up after watching the movie that my friend know I hate this stuff and I decked him and was so upset that he would play a joke like this on me and I smashed the tape.

Please im begging all of you never see the faces of death movies, so if anyone asked you to watch them say no, plus the movies are illegle and are always kept being the stores dest so they have to be asked by an 18 year old to rent them.


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It's bad enough people are making these films. Disecting a Dog!?!?!?!
The sick **** was willing to sit there with a video camera and record the death of a dog? That's one of those things that you just DON'T do. There's just no excuse for it, Dogs can be some of the friendlest and most helpful companions, why would ANYONE want to do this?
One word: Money

I hope whoever that was that did that to the dog, gets caught. He shouldn't be allowed another dog. Neither should the guy who filmed this. Unless it was set up to record on its own. You know, one of those fancy cameras.

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Only the sickest of sick people can do this to an animal and not feel guilty at all. I think one of the main reasons animals are killed like this is because some of us belive that animals do not have souls, therefore do not go to heaven or hell. This is STILL not a excuse, though... :roll:

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I don't care what reasons someone would kill an animal for. There is NO excuse for such cruelty.
I don't know if the bible says anything about animals having a soul or not, but its been my opinion that they do. Ive always thought that when you go to heaven, when reach it, everyone you know that died is waiting to greet you. That includes animal companions(wheather it was your pet or not)

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Hurting animals is wrong and who ever is doing this should be stoped.


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I don't care what reasons someone would kill an animal for. There is NO excuse for such cruelty.
I don't know if the bible says anything about animals having a soul or not, but its been my opinion that they do. Ive always thought that when you go to heaven, when reach it, everyone you know that died is waiting to greet you. That includes animal companions(wheather it was your pet or not)


Well the Bible says that when Jesus returns, the souls will "wake up". I think animals have a soul, otherwise they coudn't be alive because souls are what keeps us alive!

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I don't care what reasons someone would kill an animal for. There is NO excuse for such cruelty.
I don't know if the bible says anything about animals having a soul or not, but its been my opinion that they do. Ive always thought that when you go to heaven, when reach it, everyone you know that died is waiting to greet you. That includes animal companions(wheather it was your pet or not)


Well the Bible says that when Jesus returns, the souls will "wake up". I think animals have a soul, otherwise they coudn't be alive because souls are what keeps us alive!



Very true but if there were clones made they could live but they don't have a soul so there are ways around it.


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