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Post subject: Re: Who do you think has more evil in them, Scar or Zira? Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:13 pm |
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Interesting question!
Scar was willing and able to murder his own, close family members--including a young child and he blamed this child of the child's Dad's death... and he attempted to throw this child (then grown up) to his death just after revealing to him that he'd trusted his father's true killer and carried false guilt for all those years... I think that's awfully evil. But I don't think the destruction he caused to Pridelands and intenting to let the pride starve to death was all about evilness though... I believe it was more about pride and self-hate or something--not able to give in and admit he'd failed as a king instead of being "10 times the king Mufasa was"... Anyway, for all we know Scar starts with just jealousy and greed, as in doesn't have eny practical mistreatment to provoke him.
Zira was murderous but hadn't really yet done anything evil by the time she got exiled... This wrongful exile and Simba killing her obsessive love interest, Scar, sends her into murderous plan for which she robbs her own son of his childhood by training him into a killer to avenge her loss. In the end she too is shown to be willing to kill her own child and kill anyway by her own paw. But I believe her insanity and evilness developed through the movie's years...
Of course Scar's developed too, throughout years we weren't shown, but... I guess I'll say Scar. Scar has more evil in him. At least Zira wasn't a child murderer and didn't do all the evil stuff for greed and jealousy but for revenge, as in she had more of "justification" even though she did go too far.
So, yeah--in my opinion, Scar has more evil in him than Zira in her.
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Post subject: Re: Who do you think has more evil in them, Scar or Zira? Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:50 am |
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I think Scar is more evil than Zira because Zira make know she hates Simba but Scar always make his bad tricks behind Mufassa's back !
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Post subject: Re: Who do you think has more evil in them, Scar or Zira? Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:54 pm |
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I would have to say Scar. Zira never actually killed anyone, but Scar killed his own brother. Someone he had known his whole life. Scar has got my vote.
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Post subject: Re: Who do you think has more evil in them, Scar or Zira? Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:38 am |
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Post subject: Re: Who do you think has more evil in them, Scar or Zira? Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:33 pm |
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Hmm...
Well Scar murdered Mufasa, told Simba it was his fault that Mufasa was dead, told Simba to go run away and then said to the rest of the pride they (Mufasa and Simba) were dead in order to take the thrown. He was a tyrant and was unwilling to move from Pride Rock, telling Sarabi basically that everyone else can starve, they're not leaving. He left Simba scarred and depressed about killing his father for years until Simba returned, and even then tried to get the others to turn against Simba. Then he tells Simba that HE killed Mufasa just before he is about to repeat the same he did to Mufasa.
Zira was in love with Scar and would do anything to avenge his death. She is cold and pretty much uncaring to her children, treating Nuka like garbage, even willing to kill Vitani and Kovu for defecting her. She was pretty much bloodthirsty for revenge.
Overall, I would say one is not more evil than the other because they're both pretty evil in their own different ways. Scar manipulated all the events that happened in the first movie just so that he could take the throne while Zira wasn't about to let anything get in her way of killing Simba in order to avenge Scar, even her own children. BUT going by the points listed, I would say definitely Scar because of all the reasons mentioned above.
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Post subject: Re: Who do you think has more evil in them, Scar or Zira? Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:40 pm |
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Scar, Scar killed Mufasa and banish Simba.
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Post subject: Re: Who do you think has more evil in them, Scar or Zira? Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:58 am |
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Well, Scar, I think. Because he murdered Mufasa to become king. Zira was just lovesick, and wanted revenge. Well, that is a bot evil, but she didn't murder anyone in the process.
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