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SIGH. Oh well. I see I'm not making too much headway here. Fine. Those of you artists who wish to go at loggerheads with the dishonest and uncooperative of the MySpacers, go. You're each made for each other. I'm tired of trying to help.

For those here who have understood what I was trying to do (even if you didn't think it had much of a chance), I appreciate it. There ARE MySpacers who also want benevolent interaction with the artists, and to do the right thing. There are, however, some idiots here who have unfairly characterized them, and that is a real shame (and I'm sick of engaging in useless debate with said idiots, because it resolves NOTHING. It only prolongs the problem, and wastes bandwidth ). It ruins any chance of resolution and fostering of good and cooperative relations.

There are certain things I feel which MUST be done to resolve these things. However, since I am not getting across to some of the more stubborn and infantile of people here, and on MySpace (who seem to be looking for a fight, and want unrest and hate to persist), I am going to post these, and then I'm going to leave this thread behind...

1. The e-mail addresses of the artists should be posted on their main gallery pages here. A shout box message board, I think, is not enough. Because the artist has to come back here in order to see it, and then cycle through it. E-mail is better, and more direct. It WILL make it easier for people to contact each artist for permission to use their work.

2. Artists probably SHOULD put watermarks on their works (as some have). I think it's fair to ask for a copy without the watermark once permission has been secured. This is what professional photographers and artists do when their work is purchased from their websites. I also think it's fair of the artist to have certain disclaimers and copyright statements that the "borrower" should agree to, at the risk of facing possible litigation if those conditions are not followed (which would be up to the artist to try and pursue if he or she was that upset over any eventual alteration of their work). If necessary, you can ask Steet to put in an agreement button which must be clicked before the art can be used (or perhaps even viewed). Sure, this would take some programming work, but it would be worth the trouble.

3. Artists NEED to stop trolling around on MySpace (and wherever else they may be) looking for people who MIGHT be using their work without permission, if the intent is to confront those people and stimulate conflict. And MySpacers (and others) who use the art without permission NEED to respect the rights of the artists, and their concerns.

Good freaking luck, people.

So...today I learned that some members of Balto Source are now engaging in the practice of not only trolling around MySpace, looking for people using artwork from here (as has already been discussed in this thread), but now they're laying threats that MySpacers will be banned from Balto Source if they don't remove images from their pages.

How this pettiness shames the messages contained in the cartoons...and the legacy of the real dogs and people involved in the Great Serum Run of 1925. That some people here cannot find a better and more sophisticated way of resolving such problems, without resorting to threats, is just shameful. It's purile, and it's cowardly. And I don't care WHO started it.

i dont know if they are really stealing it could be that the artist has an account and u dont know it?..possibility..I dont know) anyway plz elaborate and clarify a bit plz..

Just stop, your saying art theft is okay. I didn't tell you to 'leave' I told you drop the subject and stop posting on it. Your not the one stealing the art these poeple aren't bothering you. Just drop the subject, this isn't my site your free to come and go as you please just stop impying that it isn't that bad that people are taking these images.

Also I never told you to leave, so if your trying to make me look like the bad guy its not working. I said stick to myspace if you have a problem with how we deal with what we artists don't like about people taking our art please keep it to yourself.