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*sigh* I back take my thoughts about Disney owning Balto...I mean at least they are poping out with "special edition" DVDs by the truck load. It's very sad that Balto (The original) is not considered a classic...If Universal did not own Balto i'm sure they would of made much, much better sequels. Find better voices/directors for the 3rd and 2nd and promoted it better also. I have mixed feelings about the promotion and treatment of American animated films for children. Disney uses a little too much and Universal uses to little...I don't like it when they promote "average" kiddy adimated films that didn't get so dazzling film ratings to much. Such as going over the top with the Land Before time series of movies. And not even giving poor little Balto no popularization at all when it was twice the movie that Land Before time would ever hope to be! Honestly choosing Barbie films instead of Balto ones? I doubt that whatever we fans will do petition or not will have no effect. They are already done with Balto. I do not want another cheaply made Balto sequel fit for children but not me...But, I will however go for a well made special edition of the original 1st Balto. Sorry to say but I have no feelings for the 2nd or 3rd...


About promotions for the sequels... I had never even heard of Balto 3, and one day my Dad brought it home from a movie rentall place. So, that proves that I had absolutely no idea that it was going on. They should have advertised better - I'll bet that's a lot of the reason, when people see films in stores that aren't advertised, usually they don't think twice....

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I didn't even Balto 2 existed until I went to Chapters movie area and I saw it.I was looking for Balto 1 so I bought both of them. :lol:
The 3rd one I found it in another movie I bought.

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Here are some arguments I've found.

- People will be more interested in buying the sequels if they own the first Balto. So, releasing the first Balto on DVD will boost the sequels sales too. You could even re-release them as well on the market at the same time, to make more sales.

- All of the animated classics films now have a special edition dvd, why not Balto?

- Balto has always made good sales on videos, the same would be sure to happen with a new dvd release.

- The current dvd release does not respect the film in any way : the cover is not appealing at all (such a cheap cover can even turn out people by thinking it's not the "true" Balto film), there is no real extras (where are the deleted scenes? the commentaries? things that BOTH kids and adults like...)
And the film ratio was transfered into a bad 4/3 format instead of the original widescreen format, which means the original image is cut. Also, most of the TV sets sold in the market now are widescreen, and most people don't like watching full screen dvds on them.

- Lots of people would want to buy the film, but the current dvd cannot be found except by ordering on web shops, which is not a good way to sell films to children. How do you expect that people will buy something they can't find? Also, you never released any DVD pack with the Balto films.

- Balto is clearly a "sleeper hit" : a film which most people in the world don't know about, but which everyone who seen it once liked immediately. Balto has never been promoted properly, and so many people who could be interested in it, don't know about it. If they saw some advertisement for the film (for the occasion of the release of this SE dvd), they would be immediately interested and pick it up.

- Special Editions DVDs released for other animated films from other companies have always made good to top sales.

- Releasing a dvd costs much less than making a new sequel. Also, this will boost and revive the popularity of the Balto franchise by a lot, and it could bring more opportunities for this franchise in the future.

- Both the fans and "regular" people would be interested in such a DVD, which is not the case when you release a sequel.

- Balto fits very well your current brand of franchises you're currently developing : a simple and clean film for all the family.

- It is the perfect time to release special edition dvds : dvd players are parts of the everyday's life now, and all childrens can access one.

- All Balto fans are waiting for such a DVD eagerly, and the Balto fan community has grown a lot year after year. So, even when considering the fan base alone, it would still make good sales.

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Good points Steet. :wink:

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They won't listen to us if we stay in the internet. maybe we could organize a convention sometime in California, well I think that also we should make another petition but send it to members (who agree to have it sent to themselves and sign it) or maybe there should be a page on the site with a form about the petition have members print it out, and sign it with their very own handwriting, then send it to a surten adress. well I know for sure that they won't listen to kids.

We could also write a book, featuring points of view, member's opinions and such, but I mean a good detail-juicy book.


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I think a new pention is a great idea^^ on with it^^

Hahahahaah finaly someone else who desides not give up^^

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They won't listen to us if we stay in the internet. maybe we could organize a convention sometime in California, well I think that also we should make another petition but send it to members


Well that would be a good idea but many of the people on the fourms are just teens. :wink:

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I agree wholeheartedly. In two weeks it will be the 11th anniversary of the release of the original film and we haven't seen anything. I especially agree with the argument for a more marketable cover for the DVD and more substanial advertising for a re-release. I think we should try to rally support by doing a petition.


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Yes, I agree with Juuchan! My younger cousin is looking for the original Balto! She can't seem to find it anywhere.. and she's not allowed to sign up with amazon.

I wanted to get it for her for christmas, but she wants to buy it with her HMV vouchers.


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Yes, I agree with Juuchan! My younger cousin is looking for the original Balto! She can't seem to find it anywhere.. and she's not allowed to sign up with amazon.

I wanted to get it for her for christmas, but she wants to buy it with her HMV vouchers.


Have you tried E-Bay?Or maybe Chapters the book store?I know that sounds weird but thats where I got Balto 1 and 2. :wink:

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Well...It seems things won't advance if I don't do anything.
So, I think I'll write the petition.
I think I'll put it on the site : "http://www.thepetitionsite.com", which seems better than the one for our previous petition.
I'll show the text I'll write here before putting it online, so that some people could correct the spelling errors.

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Here is the petition text I've written. Please, correct any mistake you see, and tell me if you don't agree on any point.



Balto Special-Edition DVD

Balto is an overlooked animated film, a 1995 classic and amazing film for the whole family, which deserves a better treatment on DVD.
It is also a franchise that has a big potential. A franchise which the owners, Universal Pictures, never really made an effort to promote.
Particularly, the current DVD version of the film is very disappointing : no widescreen format, no picture improvement, no deleted scenes, no commentaries, not a single interesting bonus, an underwhelming cover with mistakes on the characters' colors, a documentary mentioned on the cover but which can't be found anywhere in the disk... This dreadful DVD does not give any justice to the greatness of the film.

It is not too late! The growing community of fans strongly think that the best hope for getting Balto more popular would be to release a good Special-Edition DVD, similarly to the ones released by other companies such as Disney, Dreamworks or 20th century Fox. Nowadays, even films less popular than Balto get Special-Edition DVDs. Why does Balto has to be always the one everyone forget?

Please help us by signing this petition! We need to show them that there are enough willing consumers to go and buy a Special Edition of this wonderful film, based on a true story.

This petition is affiliated to the fansite Balto Source :
http://baltosource.timduru.org/balto.html






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Dear Universal,

We've already got in touch with you some months ago with the desire to help the Balto franchise, but nothing has changed. Not a single thing Balto-related has been released since then...

The whole Balto fan community agree on the fact that there is a great need for a new Balto DVD. It hasn't been difficult for us to list many reasons for this :

- Customers will be more interested in buying the sequels if they own the first Balto. So, releasing the first Balto on DVD will boost the sequels sales, too.

- All of the animated classics films now have a special edition DVD, even less popular films- why not Balto?

- Balto has always made good sales on videos, the same would be sure to happen with a new DVD release.

- The current DVD release does not respect the film in any way : the cover is not appealing at all (such a cheap cover can even turn out people by thinking it's not the "true" Balto film), there are no real extras (where are the deleted scenes? the commentaries? things that BOTH kids and adults like...) As a reference, the cover for the VHS versions and the theatrical release was much better.

And the film ratio was transfered into a bad span-and-scan 4/3 format instead of the original theatrical widescreen format, which means a great part of the original image is cut. Also, most of the TV sets sold in the market now are widescreen, and most people don't like watching full screen DVDs on them.

- We've encountered lots of people who want to buy the film, but the current DVD cannot be found in local stores. The only way to find it is by ordering on web shops, which does not seem a good way to sell films to children. How do you expect that people will buy something they can't find? Also, you never released any DVD pack with the Balto films, so releasing Balto 1 as a single shouldn't be a problem.

- Balto is clearly a "sleeper hit" : a film which most people in the world don't know about, but which everyone who has seen it once liked immediately. Balto has never been promoted properly, as a result many people who could be interested in it just don't know about it. If they saw some advertisement for the film (for the occasion of the release of this SE DVD), they would be immediately attracted and would pick it up.

- Special Editions DVDs released for other animated films have always made good to top sales.

- Releasing a DVD costs much less than making a new sequel. Also, this will boost and revive the popularity of the Balto franchise by a lot, and it could bring more opportunities for this franchise in the future.

- Both the fans and "regular" people would be interested in such a DVD, which is not the case when you release a sequel.

- Balto fits very well the current brand of franchises you're currently developing : a simple and clean film for the whole family.

- It is the perfect time to release special edition DVDs : almost everyone own DVD players now, including children.

- All Balto fans are waiting for such a DVD eagerly, and the Balto fan community is growing bigger and bigger...


We would like to suggest this Special Edition DVD to be spanned on 2 discs.

If possible, the first disc should contain the film in its original widescreen format, and audio commentaries from one of the Balto film creators. Of course, there should be subtitles for all the languages included.

The second disc should contains extras : deleted scenes, making of, interviews (Steven Spielberg, Simon Wells, James Horner, the voice actors such as Kevin Bacon...), pictures gallery (paintings, sketches, storyboards...), bloopers, documentaries on the film or the true story, trailers for the two direct-to-video sequels, interesting games like trivia games...

Please consider this as both a suggestion and a very strong will from us. And, the most important : please don't forget Balto!!!

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So is this a pention for making a new balto movie or people wanting to see a special eddition DVD?

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