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I think you caused, it caused an argument on how the world was created and animal life is worthless and human are the only valuble creatures on earth... I don't know what's wrong with you but you should take a look at nature.

Erm if you ACTUALLY look at my topic I didn't post much.

Anyway, I don't want to change the subject. I just agree with you on some terms.

Okay...Zerg. Like Lunawings and Orlando, I can see the feelings behind what you are saying. And I do commend you for having the courage to state such a controversial issue openly. Still, I am concerned about your line of reasoning...and some of the things you used as justification for what you said.

Pointing out that "about ten people left", as a vague reference to the frustration people are having about the global forum mods doing their duties doesn't really accomplish much. None of us has any frame of reference because we have seen no direct evidence of that. Maybe they have. But how can we know?

The thing about posts referring to homosexuals and homosexual stuff. Dude...I may have my own personal views on that lifestyle too...but you don't see me pressing it on others here. It's a public forum...not one designed strictly for those of a religious, conservative or only heterosexual lifestyle. As one Christian to another, tolerance is something our faith teaches. There are some homosexual members in this forum. Despite their lifestyle, they are still nice people (from what little experience I've had interacting with some of them). I'm not sure what you hoped to accomplish with that reference, except to draw hostility. I respect your views on that lifestyle, but this is not the place for them.

I also agree with others who stated here that, if you have had a problem with the mods, why didn't you first try and send a private message to one of them...perhaps even Dingo (since you seem to prefer him to the others). I can understand not wanting to PM a mod you have a personal issue with...but slamming that mod (or all of them) in open forum is bound to draw fire. If nothing else, from their friends (who probably should keep out of it and let the issue be dealt with BY the mods).

There are better ways this could have been handled...

As to those of you who complained that this topic should be locked, I'd like to share with you (if you'll forgive my consecutive posting), this post. It was made by Steet himself, in another topic in this folder, when a member requested the same thing when she became frustrated by a debate in that topic:

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:06 pm

steet
Big boss

Joined: 31 Dec 2004
Posts: 3535
Location: France

Maybe locking isn't a good solution. Because when a topic is locked, the members who got into the fight keep their anger into them instead of letting it out, so one day or another it will come to another fight.

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Lion King Source

If you want to see the page of the topic where Steet's post is, it's here: http://baltosource.timduru.org/board/viewtopic.php?t=9538&start=75. He was right (and I've often said the same myself...that the differences which boil beneath the surface can NEVER be worked out if not given the opportunity. Sometimes, doing it in the forums is the ONLY WAY). Sometimes these things NEED to be worked out between people who have differences...so long as they DON'T devolve into flame wars.

In the case of Orlando's topic (which she referenced), I personally believe it was wrong for it to be locked BEFORE a fight clearly started. Steet's logic certainly applies to that one as much as it did to the one he was in...or even this one.

Also Orlando you don't need to be sarcastic, you could have just said I locked that topic. The reason was everyone was begging to start to fight with each other. If Steet or any of the other mods see's it as bad reason to lock the topic, they can unlock. If you don't like how i"m doing what is asked of my job PM me about it. Bringing it into the public eye only causes a war. We have enough of these on Balto Source and the reason we lock topics is to PREVENT these.

I agree with you BS, if a fight does not calm down in one topic, it gets locked but then agian another topic gets made and the fight continues but more fire this time, and maybe next time something really bad will happen, so I agree with BS on that.

I also agree with everyone else aswell, because each one of you has a very good point which is true on all levels, yeah the mods may lock something because they do not find it right or worth being open, but thats there choise weather anyone likes it or not, what are you gonna do about it? PM them a few times may help, if not, then PM Steet about it, but don't expect him to get back to you right away because of his busy life he has other things he needs to do, so PM him and wait.

I can see them locking religous topics, but homo and other topics that do fall in the line of rules also seem to get locked, even though some of them do abey the rules, but still get locked, if the mod finds it offenceve it gets locked, it has happend manytimes, but if your complaining does not work, or I should say reporting or asking why something was done or locked and you do not get an answer or a reasion, that would easly piss many off and it would help more if a reasion for a topic being locked was said, like if it is agenced the rules or the other reasions a topic will be locked, if not and the person PMs a mod about it, it would be helpfull for them to give that person a reasion because then they assume that they are doing it because the Mod does not like it for there own reasion, it would help alot, but other then a few things, the mods have been doing a very good job, but nothing is perfect so don't expect it to be.

I think we could do something to solve this.

Now, I suggest the mods not to lock every topic when there is a fight starting on. Instead, PM the members who got into it that if they don't stop, they should solve it in the new "rant board". If the fight keep going on in that topic, just move it to that section instead of locking it, so that things can get solved.
I don't know if this will work, but at least we'll try.

As for ZergSwarms's request, well you have absolutely no argument. How can we believe you? At least, you should have given examples of what you consider topics which shouldn't have been locked. No, instead you just keep agressing the mods by saying they are not doing their jobs correctly, again and again.
About homosexuality topics, I must say I have never seen one, but there shouldn't be topics about that nevertheless, because the rules forbid any topics related to sexuality. Talking about such matters isn't a good thing when there are little kids.

Man, that was well-said, Steet. Truly. Thanks for pointing all that out. You're 100% right on everything you said.

Me also agree^^

But why leave a topic open,Mods lock a topic,,so no more fighting can continue to go on,and on,and on...........

It has been shown that a topic being locked because of a fight just brought more fight in another topic, this idea was one of the best iv seen, let the fight deal with it's self other then locking it and it just being made agian but more powerfull the next time, if the fight is fought, it will then die after it's completetion there for not resulting in keeping it going in a diffrent topic, this will hopefully nerro down the fights, but it will not be perfect, nothing is perfect, so yeah there will be fights no matter what, this is just to help them to not be made as much.

Hm. Well, in my oppion , the mods SHOULD be stricked, thats how they get everything together with the forums and stop arguements. And their doing an awesome job. Like somebody already said, if we didn't have mods there'd be fights and arguements going on on every topic someone makes.

So they have the right to lock a borad if nessercary.

The Mods need to be strict,in order to keep people in line,and they are probably too busy.