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Selfishness? Where'd you get that? I already know what it takes to own a wolf, that I already know, your belief that owning wolves is wrong is terrible. I will tell you know, it's not that the wolves feel trap or anything of the short, my dad owned wolves and he loved them very much, and I know they loved him, and many things that can't be said in words. Wolves aren't dangerous to own, if your a rightfull owner of the wolf or wolves rather, How bout this let your mind grasp it if can Baltoseppala, can you think of a 230 pound wolf in strength most likely a aphla if in the wild, with a female alpha about 200 pounds so far a bad idea? how bout then slightly hungry over two babies? For about two hours what is the out come? It's that they just are happy panting over them and sniffing them, right above the babies my sisters. You may think that is wrong, but Buck and Sabrina raised from my father, where not trained trained, but raised by him. They never hurt anyone once.

They never did anything wrong once, besides escape from home and walk around and return home without causing any harm to anyone. They aren't the hungry animal like animal at all, they know things they understand things. I'll tell you this a leesh doesn't work for a wolf or a choke colar. They know the grip is less by going the other way. They aren't that, they smart animals that understand. I know this is hard for any one to grasp and you Baltoseppala might be blasting my dad for his actions with wolves, he knows wolves, and he has a natural talent with them, my dad has something you can never have or even I. Wolves have something which you fail to see. Something you can never see, I don't think ever will, the bond between man and wolf. Do think wolves are just wild animals? That seems to be it.

I know theres nothing wrong and your terrible belief is wrong, I know theres nothing wrong, and it's not a bad idea, you might think me and my dad are crazy or careless or heartless to wolves, I will tell you know, you will never half what I have about wolves, I see things I understand things you don't. From your point wolves should be left alone, which to extent short of need. I know theres nothing wrong, and wolves can be owned, and I can't say the words to prove you wrong Baltoseppala, I don't. I know wolves are not a wild animal. They can have human contact, as an owner, I know what it takes to own wolves and I will get them, even if it cost 1,000,000 dollars, and moving to Alaska or Cannada or buying my own land I will go any distance for them, so is that truely greed?, I will give a arm or leg, this isn't out greed Baltoseppala and I will tell you that and nothing will be as true as that. I'm sorry your blind to this whole thing, I know your point, in every place, but I know mine, and I know what I say is true as you think. My Truth vs your belief. That's what this is. I know it's ok to own one and for me it isn't out of greed, who's greedy the one who says no you can never half and it's a bad idea, or the one who will do pretty much do anything for them. I love wolves, and I know I love wolves more then you. You may say if you really loved them, you would leave them be. That is not true, I will tell you that. Well for you the saying "A man has to beleive in something even if it's not true, if he beleives it, it's true." You might think this goes agaisnt me, and short of does and it just as while goes agaisnt you. I know and you think you know, and from your point you know and I don't know. But I beleive this to my heart and my soul.

Are you going to go psycho on me again, Arcturus? Do you remember what happened last time?

I'm done discussing this. You have your beliefs, and if they comfort you, then fine. And if your father has found some LEGAL way to own wolves, then so be it. I don't care what you believe, they ARE wild animals, and it IS wrong to keep and own a wild animal. PERIOD. DONE with discussion.

That was my ending quote and is that some type of thing you have over me by our last little talk, I'm sorry your blind, my father did find a way as will I. That was my ending statement, your blind I'm not, you don't truely know what a wolf is.

I know this is hard for any one to grasp and you Baltoseppala might be blasting my dad for his actions with wolves, he knows wolves, and he has a natural talent with them, my dad has something you can never have or even I. Wolves have something which you fail to see. Something you can never see, I don't think ever will, the bond between man and wolf. Do think wolves are just wild animals? That seems to be it.

I know theres nothing wrong and your terrible belief is wrong, I know theres nothing wrong, and it's not a bad idea, you might think me and my dad are crazy or careless or heartless to wolves, I will tell you know, you will never half what I have about wolves, I see things I understand things you don't. From your point wolves should be left alone, which to extent short of need. I know theres nothing wrong, and wolves can be owned, and I can't say the words to prove you wrong Baltoseppala, I don't. I know wolves are not a wild animal. They can have human contact, as an owner, I know what it takes to own wolves and I will get them, even if it cost 1,000,000 dollars, and moving to Alaska or Cannada or buying my own land I will go any distance for them, so is that truely greed?, I will give a arm or leg, this isn't out greed Baltoseppala and I will tell you that and nothing will be as true as that. I'm sorry your blind to this whole thing, I know your point, in every place, but I know mine, and I know what I say is true as you think. My Truth vs your belief. That's what this is. I know it's ok to own one and for me it isn't out of greed, who's greedy the one who says no you can never half and it's a bad idea, or the one who will do pretty much do anything for them. I love wolves, and I know I love wolves more then you. You may say if you really loved them, you would leave them be. That is not true, I will tell you that. Well for you the saying "A man has to beleive in something even if it's not true, if he beleives it, it's true." You might think this goes agaisnt me, and short of does and it just as while goes agaisnt you. I know and you think you know, and from your point you know and I don't know. But I beleive this to my heart and my soul.

some one actually said they own a "wolf" hahahahahahahaha well that is a completely different matter ......wow i feel better now... baltoseppala i agree with you....i argue this fact with ppl i come in contact with on a daily basis who try to say they own a pure wolf....alls i can say is "no no no and no that is totallly illegal....theres no way" i am glad you clearified that for me....ppl like to tell me i am stupid...i've owned wolf hybrids for years and i think it would be a dumb idea to even think of owning a pure wolf....

Well, understand this wolfgurly...I know that it is legal to own wolf-dog hybrids. And I don't think people are BAD for owning them. Nor was it ever my intent to come down on those who own wolf-dog hybrids. I just think it's a mistake. As one of those articles I linked shows, wolves mature at a different rate than domestic dogs, and they are fundamentally different animals. And those who breed wolf-dog hybrids must, by definition, have some wolves in their possession (or have access to them), which makes THEM wrong too.

Sure, canis lupus and canis familiaris are related animals...but they are genetically different. The ancestor of canis familiaris (the domestic dog in all its forms) was not a gray wolf (or its offshoots, the timber wolf and arctic wolf), nor a red wolf, nor a Mexican wolf...nor any other form of living wolf. Scientists have shown that the ancestor of the domestic dog was some other form of canid, which is likely now extinct.

So, while wolves and domestic dogs CAN successfully interbreed, because of genetic similarities, it doesn't necessarily follow that they SHOULD interbreed...or be interbred by humans. As I said earlier (and possibly elsewhere on this site), the ancestors of domestic dogs actually first sought out humans, in their primitive encampments, which led to the formation of a perpetual symbiotic relationship...almost no other wild animal on Earth has ever done that (except maybe certain vermin...i.e. rats, mice, cockroaches, ants...at least we domesticated rats and turned them into pets too). Wolves do not have that with humans, and shouldn't.