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tibby --> I half agree with you. Yes, the best choice would have been to put the baby up for adoption. I draw the line on agreeing with you where you suggest abortion however. Life is a wonderful gift, and nobody has the right to just throw it in the trash.
Dingo is right, there has to be accountability in life. We can't just cover up the mistakes we make in life. When someone in authority messes up, we hold him or her accountable - take Watergate for instance. But guess what? Richard Nixon was the same age as these kids once too. See my point?
Rebel --> They could be worse, yes. But where would we be if we said that about everything and never tried to make them better? Smallpox would still be rampant, electric lighting would not exist, there would be no phones... beginning to see what I mean?

Not really.
And the truth is - things could've been worse. Unlike most of you, I actually have faith in these kids. It's their baby, and no one else has any right to take it away from them. Especially since they're so determined to be good parents.

My point is that if no one ever thought about how things could be better, much less strove to make them better, very little would ever get better. For example, smallpox used to be a rampant and deadly disease. Even the measures used to prevent a person from getting it could kill the patient, as they almost had done to Edward Jenner. He had suffered greatly from inept medicine, almost losing his life. But because he looked at cowpox, a similar but far less dangerous disease, he recognized the possibility of making things better. Think where we would be if he had just said, "Oh, it could be worse." I'll tell you exactly where many of us would be: six feet under.
Or Alexander Graham Bell, inventor of the telephone. Did you know that prior to his efforts, he learned of his wife's death months after she passed away? If he hadn't tried to improve his world, we'd still be in the same boat as him. Instead, we can far more often be with our loved ones at the moment of death, or for that matter prevent it. For example, imagine if you had to saddle up a horse and race down to the hospital when someone had an accident, or to the fire department every time someone's barn caught ablaze. They'd be dead by the time the doctor arrived. Think how many criminals are captured every year who would manage to thwart the law if it weren't for a quick phone call. Such a small invention (and smaller all the time), yet without it our society would be chaos.
What about Anne Sullivan, the teacher of Helen Keller? Thanks to her, the young girl who was both blind and deaf learned to connect with the world outside of her extraordinary but isolated mind. If Miss Sullivan had just ignored it and said, "Oh well, she could be dead," Helen would have suffered her entire life unable to communicate. Instead, her hopeless plight became an inspiration which continues to impact people to this day.
The list never stops. Abraham Lincoln, Harriet Tubman, Martin Luther King (and for that matter, a certain other Martin Luther), Thomas Edison... untold numbers of people, known and unknown, who made a difference in the world. And it all began when they stopped saying, "It could be worse," and started thinking, "How can I make it better?"
As for these kids, you misunderstand me. If they are intent on being good parents and they show the capability of doing so, then they have the right - indeed, the duty - to do so. But from where I stand, admittedly a far way off, "responsible," is not exactly the word that comes to mind. Does that make more sense?

I honestly feel sorry for the baby, and I don't think the baby should pay for something it's parents were too inggorant to do, or have the knowalge of.

Well, due to DNA tests, the results have "Leaked out", Alfie Patten is NOT the father.

It does make you giggle, just abit?




Alfie Patten, now 13, took the test after six other teenagers came forward to claim they had also slept with Chantelle Steadman, the 15-year-old who gave birth to baby Maisie Roxanne last month.

The Daily Mirror reports the test has proven the infant is not Alfie's — a finding that is likely to leave the boy devastated.

"I didn’t know about DNA tests before but mum explained it's when they do a swab in your mouth and it tells if you're the dad," he was quoted as saying before undergoing the test.

"So if I have it, they can all shut up."

"It had not even crossed Alfie’s mind whether Chantelle had not been faithful to him," his mother Nicole said.

"He’s absolutely devastated that these lads say they slept with her."

Since the birth, Alfie has been a doting father who can’t bear to be separated from his daughter, welfare workers say.

Matters were complicated when Tyler Barker, 14, and Richard Goodsell, 16, came forward with claims they had also slept with Chantelle and could have fathered the baby.

Since then, four more boys claiming they had slept with Chantelle have also come forward.

And a family friend has previously alleged Alfie was a victim of a scam devised by his girlfriend's mother to cash in on publicity surrounding the young parents.

Teen mum Chantelle Steadman's mother told her 15-year-old daughter to say Alfie Patten was the father of Maisie Roxanne, according to Clive Sim.

He claims Penny Steadman had told her daughter Chantelle to keep quiet about other boys she had slept with because "she knew Alfie being the dad makes a better story".

"I think there's a big scam going on here" he was quoted by the Daily Mail as saying.

Both Chantelle's and Alfie's parents are thought to have already earned thousands of dollars in media deals since The Sun broke the story.

I really cannot help but laugh at this.


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Perhaps this solves the adoption issues so that's a good thing. And the parents can now go spend their money gained from publicly exploiting their children's mistakes. What a world.

Good lord, the boy was only twelve when he 'did it'? I can understand a 15 year old girl having unprotected sex, but what attracted her to a freakin' twelve year old?

Disregard this, i didn't read the above post.

Well, we've past that point, we should be now talking about the story above.

Whoops, sorry. Didn't see that there. I replied right after reading the original post.

Oh, so whats your opinion on tihe new... News?

TOPIC LOCKED!

Maybe if you read some more and pay more attention you'll noticed the Change of Title and The BloodTest part that the Boy is not the father. Why are you disgusted anyways? Look at the news! You'll see it everyday and everywere! So it's not a surprise if one of my friends end up telling me there going to be a parent. Oh and this is not crazy, cuz like I said before it's everywere, it's just wistful thinking and in more cases Stupidity.

I disagree with abortion crap, because. 1) It's wrong and the baby had no fault in it and 2) The baby's already born and you can't do nothing 'bout it weather you like it or not. But I do highly Agree that this baby should be taken care of by a more expirienced person, Cuz I have the right and Knowlage to say that taking care of a child is Not a game. I have five siblings if anyone is wondering, and yes their toddlers, I'm the oldest.

For the record, there is only one thing I find at all agreeable about this discussion, and that's the fact that people actually acknowledge that what these kids did was immoral. In this world where everyone from politicians to elementary school students are saying that there is no absolute right or wrong, and openly reviling anyone who contradicts their "tolerant" approach to life, it's refreshing to see that there are still people, and a vocal majority at that, who agree that this stuff is categorically wrong.
On every other count, though, this sickens me.

well that's a bit of a shock.. o.O

hope someone finds the father of this child... so the REAL dad can step in instead of some 13 yr old saying it's his daughter when it clearly isn't...
anywho hope this young teenager has learnt her lesson and will be having protected sex and only doing it with one person instead of 7 !!
hope the issue can be solved and the real father to this child is found...

I believe they know, HOWEVER, a high court judge ruled that noone is to speak of it.