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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:16 pm 
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Why don't you say which country used seals, and say exactly where you got this information?


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:26 am 
Well...I'll go look it up in wikipedia.

EDIT: Well, I did. The charge had to be detonated by someone, so who would detonate an explosive under their own tank?

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Anti-tank dogs, also known as dog mines, were hungry dogs with explosives harnessed to their back and trained to seek food under enemy tanks and armoured vehicles. By doing so, a detonator (usually a small wooden lever) would be set off, triggering the explosives damaging or destroying the military vehicle and instantly killing the dog.


I don't quite understand. Is it triggered by someone, or does the lever just bend backwards when the dog is under a tank?

The dogs disabled three hundred or so German tanks, at least that's what the Soviet Union reported.

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The Hundeminen, as they were called by the Germans, had been trained using Soviet tanks, and would sometimes be loosed into a battle only to turn round and run towards the Soviets' own vehicles. Other times, the dogs would spook at the rumble of a vehicle's engine and run away.


Spook at the engine, lol. It was a good idea with lots of potential, but we can't traina dog against everything.

Orders were given to shoot any dog in sight, but the guns of the tanks could not shoot low enough at the dogs, plus, the dogs ran fast and were hard to distungiush.

Now, this is something that amazes me-the Germans soon mounted flamethrowers on their tanks to stop the dogs, but some dogs were not afraid of being burned and went under tanks anyways. Even though they are just starved, that's quite a bit of courage if you ask me.

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However, in 1942 one use of the anti-tank dogs went seriously awry when a large contingent of anti-tank dogs ran amok, endangering everyone in the battle and forcing the retreat of an entire Soviet division. Soon afterward the anti-tank dogs were withdrawn from service.


I would never want to be in that battlefield. :shock: .

But in Wikipedia here is a contradicting fact- The training of these dogs continued until 1996, but they were withdrawn from service :? .


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umm if you need reliable information about things related to war(espcially ww2 or ww1) dont use wikipedia atleast thats what ive been told, its much better to use books or ask someone who served in ww2 :wink:


Actually, the people who write this (I suppose) probably read the same books I would have-because they cite their references and most are books.

Wikipedia tends to not to be on one particular side, where they only side with Germans or Russians. They are neutral. Though most books are supposed to be like that, some of them are full of propaganda (not sure if that is the right word).

Someone who served in WWII will often have a one-sided opinion.


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Sound a bit like the dolphins with tranqilizer guns that are supposidly used to fight 'terrorists' by the US, only the dolphins live afterwards.
And that kind of dolphins probably doesn't exist, of course. The idea alone is just be silly.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:48 pm 
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The dogs disabled three hundred or so German tanks, at least that's what the Soviet Union reported.


No the soviet report was about 500 disabled tanks, It was the germans who reported about 300 tanks disabled by dogs.


Then I shall side with the Germans, I don't believe 500 tanks were disabled.


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That's very sad but I highly doubt it was huskies they used. German dogs seem more suitable.


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Poor?Dogs?Every dogs are beautiful =)


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All dogs are good to me, there's no dogs that poor to me :) even dogs who bitten me, and even the old one dog. :lol:

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My grandfather was in World War 2, but he was against the dog thing. On the bright side, imagine how many lives they saved! Also, I heared that there are tons of monuments to honer the dogs who died in the war. I'm not saying that it's good that the dogs died or anything...... :cry:


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dont u guys think its kind of ironic that after they train them both dog and all people inside of the german tank wound up killed talk about karma maybe the dogs knew what they were doing lol sorry kind of morbid joke there

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