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On the misunderstanding, I'm not so sure I did misunderstand. You said you don't like the homoerotic stuff, and don't feel that the site should become focused on that, but you see no problem with it being here. That's cotradictory. And yet, I didn't make a fuss about that.

As to the question of "blasphemy", I wasn't implying I was offended from a religious standpoint, or suggesting that you are religious (I don't really know anyway). In fact, I am religious (though I don't push it on others). Regardless, there are some members of this site who are, and would take offense to it. Still, you apologized, and that works for me.

Correction I pulled my art for other reasons. If I was really paranoid about art theft I would have pulled everything off the net. I know that art thievery does not just abound on one site alone.

No no no, look I don't want to argue or anything, I just want people to see where I am coming from. I don't have a problem with homoerotic stuff in general but it doesn't mean I want to look at it, it just doesn't effect me, I am neutral on it. That is not a contradiction, that is toleration for others in a genre that is generally accepted these days.

What I was *actually* saying was most of the people here seem to be OK with this whole zoophilic thing going on. Whether that is homosexual, heterosexual, asexual, interspecies, who knows what else involving a car battery, it doesn't matter, it is still people finding some sort of sexual attraction towards cartoon dogs. That is what is wrong, not gay stuff, not normal human stuff.

Now if that doesn't spell it out for the masses (and I seem to be on my own here which worries me!) I don't know what will but I will try anyway

What I have a problem with...

=====>****ZOOPHILIC ANIMAL PORNOGRAPHIC STORIES****<=====

*Sigh* I get it.

I have 1 thing (besides what has already been written) that annoys me:

Those If so-and-so visited you for a day, what would you do? topics.

Okay, firstly, It is impossible for a 2-D character to enter the 3-D world (unless you're Paper Mario). I don't know how to make that more clear. Secondly: All the Balto characters are not real. (Yes, I know that Balto was a real dog, I mean the character) So, they can't come over to your house and talk to you.

Thank you for listening to my rant XD

hell yeah man, you go!

I haven't come across topics like that, but I can seem how their appeal would wear off really fast.

I deleted my work PARTLY because of art theives (i know that art thieves were on this site because this was the only site I posted ALL of my BALTO fanart [which seemed to be the only thing people would want to take]) Other reasons are my own. Just so there is no confusion.

Wow. I'm so surprised by the show of fellow ranters! (Not really, it just sounded good to say for once.)

Here my responses: (Goodness, I feel like I'm answering an advcie column or something!)

Greykitty & Cat: Okay, I understand. The only reason why I thought it was because of the "stealing of your art" reason was because it was what I had heard mainly. I probably am guessing that you might have thought younger viewers may not like your views of some of your art or something (again with the whole "gay pairing" thing - this applies to only one of you, and you know who you are), but if I am wrong, you don't need to tell me. I respect your personal decisions and again, it is rather hard to realize that your excellent fanart will never be seen on this site again. I wish there was something that could have been done to have prevented this whole fiasco from ever happening, for I believe that there are many fans out there that now will never see the work that has touched so many of us.

*sob*

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Spirit_wolf12: OMG, I agree with you! Those topics are as stupid and annoying pointless as the "OMG it's a blooper" ones. Why do these people even make this up in the first place? Do they really think they could enter themselves into an animated movie and actually meet a character (like Balto, Jenna, or Steele) just like that? (Most likely, if they met with one of the lupine characters, they'd probably get attacked first. XD Serves them right . . . idiots.) It's like a badly-written fanfic - what happens when I somehow meet/fall in love with/become friends with *insert Balto character name here*? Oh God, make it stop. Besides, who really wants to meet with Dipsy (maybe some of the "shippers want to meet Kirby to ask him if he really is gay for Kodi? *shudders* I'll pretend I never wrote that . . .), Stella, or Mel (or even any of the minor characters from the movies)?

Honestly, you proved your point in so few words!

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Black Shimmer: So true on the shippers. I agree, anime shippers are worse, so I hope and pray it never gets that bad. (I know a lot of anime shippers personally, and sometimes they're really scary! Thank goodness I don't stick with one coupling with these things - I like a lot of different Balto couplings, including some that are a bit . . . controversial (a bit o' incest here, some cross-breeding species there, and the normal pairings too), as many of my readers know.

At least we know the "war" didn't really claim too many members. *whew!*

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Sarafina Fanatic: So . . . you had it up to test it out, or to see if anyone would notice? It was a nice banner, yes, but it didn't seem like your personality, SF. I'm glad it's off! (really. I think you can tell the whole thing gets on my nerves.)

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Ac and BaltoSeppala: Wow. Problem solved. I liked the points that you both brought up, and I agree with Ac on what the "shippers" are really into. Thank you both. At least it ended peacefully! ^__^

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*sigh* I'm more in the mood for sleeping than ranting . . . I have to vote tomorrow morning . . . bah politics.

- Juuchan17

Yes,I had to try it out,guilty as charged,and I'm sorry if it bothered you Juuchan17.

Oh, don't cry. I didn't bother me (it looked nice, I'll admit it); it's just that recently there's been a lot of them and now it was just too much.

Hell, I'll freak people out with one (just to piss people off) that no one will ever expect. (This might happen . . . then again, it might makes an interesting contest . . . *ponders*)

So all is forgiven! ^__^

- Juuchan17

Okay, let's face it: I'm a master at "double posting." Many apologies if it bothers anyone.

Okay, this has just done it:

Unfairness on the Forums?

Ok, I really hope this doesn't offend anyone, but this just got my attention after BaltoSeppala (a good friend, I may say) recently posted about his feelings on the whole "gay/incest fics" thing and him wanting to give up his title as Fanfic Mod.

Not to be mean, but is this fair? His topic is chock full of talk of the stuff that has gotten many previous topics (by many non-mod members) locked and yet, his is still there. Why is this so?

Is it because he is a (or was a - I dunno if it's official or if he's still one yet) Mod? Is it because he spoke his mind on how he felt (which, I must say, takes true guts and courage to do) on having to check these fics while he himself would have never allowed such pieces to ever see the light of day on the site with his power? (Yes, I've read his entire topic, but I'm still confuzzled by the whole situation though)

*sigh* What in the hell is the world coming to today?

Honestly, if you wanted to end the whole "gay-obsessive fanfics" just go- . . . oh never mind - it's a bit too graphic of a thought for you guys. Trust me, I can have quite a demented mind at times.

I don't care what you do anymore. If you write those fics, fine. Write them for all I care. If you can't tolerate them, maybe write you own fics that you can tolerate reading. And if you're in the middle . . . well, you wouldn't have to do anything . . . except don't choose sides. Choosing sides will only turn this whole thing into another big-a** flame war argument thing . . . . and I'm sure everyone can agree that we really don't want to deal with that AGAIN. Especially Steet.

Darn, we've all forgotten Steet in this whole situation! (*slaps self*) I feel sorry for him really. We're doing all this ranting and arguing and he's tried so hard to meet our likings and approval. He really needs some more respect . . . for dealing with us rebellious souls. (No, I'm not really "rebellious" . . . I prefer the word "controversial". ^__~)

*bows to Steet* I'm really not worthy of anything. *bows to the mods* Really, I'm not. I appreciate all of you for keeping me sane by allowing me to rant on the way I do. You guys have no idea how much this means to me.

So, can't we just call a gosh-darn truce on these arguments and stuff and just get along? I can have so much more fun that way! (Plus there's another better topics to talk about than this stupid argument over stuff that's been settled long ago!)

*whew!* Ranting over. I really hope no one is mad by what I have said, but somehow, it had to come out.

- Juuchan17

Yeah, I noticed that too, Juuchan, TRUST ME. LoL why people just can't play it neutral, even if they really DON'T, I don't know. Even as a kid, I learned to mind my own business if I didn't want a fight to start up. Its not the same thing as standing up for what you believe it. People think so, but it's not.

But yes, it is also unfair to the non-mod people, who have no say in any matter, who get their topics locked when they didn't deserve it, all because some people don't know when to keep their mouths shut. If their topic is for a certain group of people, let those people say what they think. If its not for a certain group of people, let them mind their own business and go join their OWN group, know what I mean?

And, no offense to steet or anyone, but I don't understand why people are feeling so bad for him. He doesn't deal with this stuff that goes on with this site all the time. He's off living life. I'm sure this website is one of his last priorities right now. Which is both a bad and a good thing. And I'm also sure he doesn't want (or need) pity LoL

But yeah, anyway. Yeah lots of stuff is unfair on the forums. And the site as a whole for that matter.

And yet, here we are - a mix of people from all around the world, united together because of our love/obsession/idolism/fandom/*insert whatever you want to call your fandom here* for a cartoon half-breed that was based on a true American (although Alaska wasn't part of the US yet, but meh, who cares?) hero in the form of a black and white sled dog who made a name for himself.

What do you expect?

Here's how I see it: We're all nuts here.

Really, we are. Just one big old can of corny nuts.

And I agree with you on all of that, Cat. (We tend to agree a lot, don't we?) I mean, I feel more neutral than ever . . . I like many of the things on here that others do not (and tend to argue about the most, which drives me to points of insanity . . . which causes me to write rambles or more WQ articles for you guys to ponder on), and yet I understand both sides of the situation . . . but I'm afraid to take a side or even say that I'm neutral (because then, you know, the sides will start a big old tug o' war just to get you on their side - anyone else feel this way?).

At least I won't mention about the "Rules of Order" stuff here . . . I hope we don't have to resort to that official mumbo-jumbo here - we'd all be confused before the debating and arguing even begins . . . LOL, that might work.

And I'm surprised by this: Why is this called a "rant" forum when all that I read (well, not all of it) is people speaking their minds on things on the forums and sites that bother them, and yet we have locked topics?

So much for "freedom of ranting" . . . (but I know my limits and when I wish to break them, the mods will know - trust me on that.)

- Juuchan17

Exactly, I don't see how this can be an offence but of course, there's always the tipical suck ups which is why they pity him...or at least most of them. Have you ever noticed that when some normal member makes a topic talking about some bad stuff that happens in their life nobody replies to it? I mean some people do; close friends and I'm fine with that but some people instead of just ignoring the topic (if it bothers them) they go in and make a load of crappy comments that flame and only start wars leading to a closed topic, but above all there is a very simple answear get a life to all those people. Like steet does, he has a life!!! he probably cares little for all the little wars going on, all the issues going on in the site yeah they can be a problem that bothers us all and have a little complicated anwears like suck ups and how the entire system works it's all just a part of frekin life, a different person, a different mind, different beliefs, there are so many differences and system that the main overall of this systems would be very complicated to explain, life is short so why anger yourself and fight? you know just be happy as long as you do the "right thing" or what you belive is right, problems will come and go just deal with them try to learn something from them and if they're just tiny little problems say to your self " kiss my *ss " ignore them and live, get a life, solving problems and helping with all the main and small fights is good because sometimes people have stuff they need to learn for the real life, but when it's just a site fight just suck it up and continue normal life, and if it can grow then it's a "life" problem, they clearly would need a little help and not the fight help just the advice help, it's all simple just deal with life. live it, love it, with your free opinions...