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nah making of people isn't my style, I'd rather make a friend, then make an enemy.

Well, what I did was all in good, innocent humor, dude. It wasn't meant to make fun of you or anyone else. There is a difference...it's all in the context, and the relationship with the person you're speaking with...

You forget Seppala I know you well enough too know when it was light humour, so don't worry about it, I'm not mad.

Roger that...

Seppala taking orders from me....the worlds gone mad....

No offense Zorro, but that's kind of a different situation. Don't get me wrong, she was rude to you and all, which isn't cool, but you didn't have to start the fight. In this case, I agree with Seppala's philosophy. You could have easily backed down without resorting to violance. In Roxas case, I think he was justified in what he did. He was protecting a friend and from what I understand, this racist didn't understand much but violance, so I'm not sure Roxas had much of a choice but to attack the guy to protect his friend.. It is true that he could have taken a more passive action by getting a teacher, so Roxas didn't choose the most non-violant choice, but like I said earlier, if he had gone to find a teacher, who knows how badly his friend would have been hurt.[/quote]

You did do the right thing sticking up for your friend. One of my best friends is black and I can't imaine life w/o her crazy antics. But yeah. He should apologize to you, but you should too. Becuase I'm Christian, I shalt preach now.

Jesus said, If one slaps you, turn and offer your other cheek. They don't know what the heck true tolerance is, and you can teach them


Sorry for going all preacher on you...

Unfortunatly, some people out there are really screwed up, wheither they were raised by crappy parents, or they just have no sense of right or wrong, or are very mentaly ill. That's why this kind of thing needs to be dealt with, cause it is still a serious problem today.

Well im very proud of you, and you know what? don't apoligize, the attacker does not deserve one, so tell the princible that you won't and that you cannot make me, by doing that will show him but also others that you stood up for what you belived in, and well I am proud of you ether way, but if you don't want to then say F**k you im not going to, yes it sounds very young and assinine, but to me it's right because it's standing up and not falling under his power or will, so say no and walk out, it may get you in more crap, but you more then likely will feel so much better after you do it, sometimes the right thing is not always the better, because if you say sorry, you will feel not as good as if you said no to saying sorry.

Personaly I hate racists, and well if I was you, the next time I saw that kid id kick his A** agian, but thats just me, so don't go getting yourself intruble for what someone else does^^........

Kakashi, what DarkHusky said in his post is essentially right. In simpler terms, "kids will be kids"...and despite the fact that, when we're teenagers, we like to think we're pretty connected with the world and socially-conscious (which you find, when you're an adult, that you are most definitely NOT), kids and teens still are children. Which means, by that very definition, they're immature (physically, mentally, and developmentally).

And human beings are, by nature, cruel (kids too). It is ridiculous for some people to believe (as I once did) that people are, by nature, innately good. They are not. They are self-interested and selfish. It is in our basic nature...going back looooong into pre-history, where our very survival depended upon taking care of ourselves FIRST. Sadly, that basic instinct evolved into the kinds of negative traits we see in our kind today: greed, avarice, selfishness, egomania, racism, xenophobia, paranoia, cruelty, and all kinds of violent behavior. It takes a concerted effort by an individual to be good at heart, kind and benevolent.

Incidentally, it is an aggregious over-simplification to think racism is defined by aversion to another people because of skin color. And it's a mistake to pin it down to "hate"...which is a convenient label we slap on it to make it easier to justify as being wrong, and easier, in theory, to change. If it were only hate, people suppose, then you can concievably convince someone not to hate another.

But racism isn't actually rooted in hate. It goes much deeper than that. It really goes back to the pre-historic tendencies of our kind...to fear what is different. THAT is deeply ingrained in our make-up, and no amount of grass-roots rallying, speech-making, or forced acceptance is going to change things. That's why people have a basic aversion to other people of different racial origins...different nationalities, languages, etc. And why hetersexuals have an aversion to homosexuals. And it can be cultural differences which feed racism as well. But it all goes back to a deeply-ingrained, almost instinctual fear of what is different. For our modern cultures to try and wish it gone, or force it to be gone is a waste of time, and doomed to failure. It has to occur naturally...and that will probably take another century or more. Since we are impatient, we end up with the kinds of stresses we face.

But kids, like DarkHusky implied, are cruel. Think back...isn't always about a "pecking order" in school, no matter what grade? And there's always the "top dog", and the lowest one. There are kids who get bullied and teased, kids who get forgotten, and kids who are popular. That's also deeply-ingrained in our kind...going back to similiarities with other pack or group-oriented animals, when their young play-fight and jockey for position. WE should be able to control that a bit easier than something like racism. And, in fact, schools in the U.S. are apparently taking those steps. It's a shame for all the teased and bullied kids who never had that protection in times past...even when I was in school.

I read about kids being cruel, but I think that is a bit too general, kids are all different, and lets not forget that grown ups are usually colder then kids, you dont see any eight year olds trying too take over countries and wipe out the jews. (Hitler). But it is true that some kids can be cruel, I would never be cold too someone just for what they are, I accept almost all people, and am opened minded, sure like most people if they get on my bad side I will hold a grudge, but I never judge a book by its cover.

Look at it this way, Roxas: when we finally make contact with a race from another world, it will give those who are incapable of racist sentiments someone brand new to fear and loathe.

True, very true, its the sadness of the dark side of the world, the people who cannot except others, and swim in their own hatered and misery.