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Animals and People are equils. besides, Animal body's are different from ours. If we find something new about medications because of animal tests, then it won't nessisarily do enything good to us. Animal testing is cruels and unnessisary.


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i would agree if it would help cure cancer or something like that, but just to get rid of a 48 hour cold thingy would just be stupid.
animals have done nothing to us to gain all that suffering.


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Animals and People are equils. besides, Animal body's are different from ours.

You contradict yourself: "Animals and People are equal - but animals bodies are different from ours"?

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If we find something new about medications because of animal tests, then it won't nessisarily do enything good to us. Animal testing is cruels and unnessisary.

If we find something in animal tests, then it avoids you to die from a medication. And that's something really good for you, in my opinion. It's not like someone thinks "hey, let's take this phosphorus acid and see what happens with the chicken, maybe it could heal something..." - it still takes a lot of laboratory work and ideas before something is tested on an organism, and the goal of it is to avoid human loss by using that newly developed medicine. Same as that the animals are carefully selected for these tests, as they all have their own similarities with certain of our own body parts.

Of course - it's sad for each single life of those animals - but it saves millions of other lives day by day, human as well as animal ones.

Predators don't act any less cruel to their prey - as they do it because they can do it, and because they have to do it. As long as such action assures survival - there isn't anything wrong with it.

What we have to deny, that's if it happens for luxury goods that don't do anything to better our own life.

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Animals and People are equils. besides, Animal body's are different from ours.

You contradict yourself: "Animals and People are equal - but animals bodies are different from ours"?

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If we find something new about medications because of animal tests, then it won't nessisarily do enything good to us. Animal testing is cruels and unnessisary.

If we find something in animal tests, then it avoids you to die from a medication. And that's something really good for you, in my opinion. It's not like someone thinks "hey, let's take this phosphorus acid and see what happens with the chicken, maybe it could heal something..." - it still takes a lot of laboratory work and ideas before something is tested on an organism, and the goal of it is to avoid human loss by using that newly developed medicine. Same as that the animals are carefully selected for these tests, as they all have their own similarities with certain of our own body parts.

Of course - it's sad for each single life of those animals - but it saves millions of other lives day by day, human as well as animal ones.

Predators don't act any less cruel to their prey - as they do it because they can do it, and because they have to do it. As long as such action assures survival - there isn't anything wrong with it.

What we have to deny, that's if it happens for luxury goods that don't do anything to better our own life.


You speak the Truth. Now, I request this topic be locked.

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*quivers* you know this is taking every SINGLE ounce of self control to not scream at you and everyone else. *deep breath* animals testing is compleatly wrong. First of all, Mice and rats are just as alive as dogs, cats, monkeys, and guinie pigs! They just are smaller! And Animal testing isn't even nessisary. Even if it does hurt the animal, it doesn't mean that it will hurt people. Our skin is different from theres. Second, if it doesn't hurt the animals, then they still have to live in horrible cages *shakes with rage* :evil: NEVER! by eny way should ENY animal, from a mouse to a dog, have to live like that! :evil: And don't say something like "HOw do you know that" BEcause I DO know that! I reaserched Animal Labs once. And animal labs are an ever growing problem, and the last thing that all of us animal lover need is someone saying "Hey! Animal labs ARE good!" I'll cut myself off there before I REALLY say something mean pissedoff.gif


I agree with you 100%. Someone in my school got into an agrument with me saying that it IS right and I just asked them how THEY would feel if someone injected them with experimentel drugs and things like that to see what would happen. It's dissgusting! People think they are at the top of the world. Well, we shouldn't be. There are so many people out there that scientists could experiment on. Murders who are on death row, for example. They should be used for something useful rather than just left to rot. But animals haven't done anything wrong. In fact, I think animals have more of a right to be here than people do. At least they don't kill for the fun of it like we do.>< But Animal Testing IS wrong.

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THANK YOU Tibb! Animal labs are a horrible thing! And this article is making some people think that they should still have Animal labs! and preditors killing for food is very different! they kill to survive, In animal labs, we kill to test products! and like I said before. ANIMAL SKIN CAN REACT DIFFERENTLY FROM HUMAN SKIN!!!!!! and with all of out new technology, there is no excuse that ANimal labs are a good thin :roll: :evil:


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Think what you want, none of you will ever change it. In fact, you can't. Go aginst the Government, and they will own you.

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*Sigh* I did actually ask not to try and get this topic locked, let alone request it. You are all entitiled to your opinion. I know we would have people go 'OMG how dare u say that!' and look what I got. You lot are disgraceful. Thank you to everyone who has tried to understand, though they don't agree. And thanks and congratulations to the people that actually see sense and to be kind.

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ANIMAL SKIN CAN REACT DIFFERENTLY FROM HUMAN SKIN!!!!!!

Which is exactly why scientists *select* their testing animals up on the purpose of the medicament and medication.

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and with all of out new technology, there is no excuse that ANimal labs are a good thin :roll: :evil:

Actually, we aren't talking about an excuse here. We're talking about a requirement, up on which all of our lives rely.

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Think what you want, none of you will ever change it. In fact, you can't. Go aginst the Government, and they will own you.


If enough people go against it, they would probably stop. :roll: There is this thing called 'freedom to petition' and if enough people (obviously in the 1,000's) signed it, the gov would probably realize that what they are doing is wrong and inhumane.

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I'm sorry (sort of) I just can REALLY get worked up when someone tries to say that killing animals, sometimes for no reasone, is right :roll: well, I'm not even going to bother with you guys enymore. Becaus if you won't help stop this horrible thing, then I will. (and I'm not disgraceful :? )


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If enough people go against it, they would probably stop. :roll: There is this thing called 'freedom to petition' and if enough people (obviously in the 1,000's) signed it, the gov would probably realize that what they are doing is wrong and inhumane.

Actually, wouldn't we need to call it "humane" to do those tests? Because I don't know any animals doing it ;)

And most certainly no. An animal-life simply doesn't weigh as much as a human one. A government usually tries to better the situation of its civilists rather than worrying about some cats that have to do a heroic act to better it.

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and your calling ME disgraceful :roll: :thumbdown: *leave the forums*


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and your calling ME disgraceful :roll: :thumbdown: *leave the forums*


Please leave this topic alone if you're gonna get it locked. Humans are more important than animals. I do agree that some labs are slightly over the top, but not really.

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and your calling ME disgraceful

Seriously, that's something you've to prove first...

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:roll: :thumbdown: *leave the forums*

Well, most certainly you don't know me - you don't even try to understand my thoughts and convictions, so, who are you to tell me what I should do?

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