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Post subject:  Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:25 am |
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Whitewolf(uk) wrote: I do believe animals have souls.
Animals have all the same emotions as humans do just not always to the same extent, an elephant herd will mourn the death of a member of that herd for a very long time and chase off any predators.
I believe animals have more of a soul than humans do, people will do all sorts of evil and terrible things to each other, take 9/11 for example, people hi-jacked planes and flew them into a building filled with thousands of people most of whom were doomed never to escape the towers and that was one person to another and people will kill others in cold blood and could'nt careless, beat people to within an inch of their lives with no remorse.
Animals do not do that, a predator will stalk and kill another animal for food but never ever for fun or hate, a wolf fighting for dominance of a pack will never kill the submissive wolf however the battle turns out, not a single animal will harm another without just cause, humans do.
I live with animals everyday of my life like many others and can see their soul all the time, I know that sounds stupid but it's true.
Just because animals don't wear clothes, drive cars and live in brick structures like we do does'nt mean they are'nt like us inside.
...And personally I don't trust the bible one little bit, the bible was man-made and has been changed and re-written hundreds of times so what makes it so believeable and trustworthy? Trust is earned and that goes for books too, I won't believe it and besides...in the end, it is just a book.
exactly  That is EXACTLY what I think
To me, that's the truth and always will be.
If animals don't have souls, then people don't have souls, because people are animals too 
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:33 pm |
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True, but still, I am not going to believe animal have souls. .. I don't have much of a anwser right now, but yeah..
Scamp/Angel Fanatic! wrote: If animals don't have souls, then people don't have souls, because people are animals too People are not animals. XD
We are human beings, while animals are.. Well, animals. Who told you that? xD
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:51 pm |
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Balto Wolfdog wrote: We are human beings, while animals are.. Well, animals. Who told you that? xD
You didn't ever study evolutionary trees, did you? This is what a "broken down" cladogram about homo sapiens looks like
animalia * --> mammalia ° --> primates --> catarrhini --> hominoidea ' --> hominidae " --> hominini ^ --> homo |
* ANIMALS (kingdom)
° MAMMALS (class)
' HUMAN LIKES (family)
" APES (subfamily)
^ TRUE HUMANS (tribus)
| HUMANS (genus)
So, on an evolutionary base it's simply factual that humans belong to ANIMALIA and MAMMALIA. Nobody can change that, not even creationists, as the evidence presents itself in their own organism.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:39 pm |
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Hmm.....it is certain humans have souls...because we can determine right from wrong. But determining right from wrong is a matter of perspective. For example, the attacks on 9/11 were cruel, and we branded them as "terrorists." Which I agree with, but remember, One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Also, having a soul is a blessing as well as a curse. As humans, we were given souls, opening up a path to differ the natural way of things. It is a blessing because, we are able to do many things that souless beings cannot, that is the upside. The downside? We have become defilers of Nature. Now, not having a soul could be good as well, that being will not be able to break away from Nature, as we have. So do not jump to conclusions that beings with souls are "Better" than ones without. As for dogs, I believe they can show an amount of emotion, however limited it may be.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:47 am |
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May I ask you people something?
Why is it that everyone claims "souls" in religious terms to be factual? Have you ever seen evidence for their existence? (and no, I don't want to hear things like that you dreamed that your dead grandma visited you, or that you couldn't classify some odd sounds in your house)
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:14 pm |
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...which would lead to the official and reasonable conclusion:
Something of which the existence can't be proven or disproven simply cannot exist.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:50 am |
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So, if I say: DRAGONS EXIST...
...you simply accept it, because you can't prove or disprove it? Awesome... we're back in the middle age.
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