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Should deviant-sexual fanfics be banned totally?
Yes 42%  42%  [ 22 ]
No 52%  52%  [ 27 ]
I have no opinion 6%  6%  [ 3 ]
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 Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:41 am 
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i posted my vote as a yes for banning those fanfics the fact that JC, Ghost-Unit and Kelev all have very good reasons and what they've stated i'm on them on that 100%. This is a kids website like geez you don't see Simba and Nala doing the "you-know-what" and same with Balto and Jenna. Like sure the flirt in the film/fic here or there but detailed and a main factor of the fic ye... i would ban it.


and others who are with banning this.. i agree with you too :)


* Clap Clap* I agree with you right there 100%

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 Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:45 am 
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I'm glad to see so many people willing to stand up for what's right. There are too many sites out there loaded with this stuff already, so let's toss the junk back in the dumpsters where it belongs!

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 Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:33 am 
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Yet I voted "No", because I believe that while most of it could be banned, we could induce some VERY strict rules on what could be allowed (which would, for instance, be fictions revolving around controversial romance).

And how precisely would you rewrite the rules, then? I think they are already very strict, but I may be wrong.


If I were to rewrite the rules, I would probably clearly state that any deviant-sexual (this includes zoophilia, incest, necrophilia, etc.) content in fanfictions are -forbidden-. Exceptions only apply for homosexuality (since I find homophobia quite disgusting and respectless toward the gays), however there can be no descriptive -and/or- undescriptive sexual acts (including mating, etc. In other words; lay off the sex. Cat14's "Buried Secrets" is a prime example on what -shouldn't- be allowed). Incestual fanfictions like RTW's "A Forbidden Love" - where it is within the boundaries of rules similar to my suggestion - are OK with me, personally, although I can agree that incest has nothing to do on BaltoSource in the first place.

However, regardless of what other people think, there are homosexual people in our world and - despite the fact that it is more often dominant behaviour rather than affection - also homosexuality found in the animal world. It might be because of a hormonal mutation/error within the brain (although I really think -that- is biased), but nevertheless; it is still apparent.
In order to prevent homophobia - which is wrong; gays are people too, you know? - from becoming apparent on BaltoSource, while still giving some readers some insight into how badly treated the gay society is in certain areas, I'd say we should allow fanfictions containing homosexuality, as long as they are within the boundaries of extremely strict rules.

Now, don't misunderstand me; I'd only be happy to enforce new rules about deviant-sexual content (all mods would probably be), but I do fear disallowing fanfictions revolving around -undescriptive- (aka no details) homosexuality would only feed homophobia. I'm not saying that doing this on BS would have a large impact, but we all know that even the slightest spark may erupt into a giant fire.


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 Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:35 am 
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Yes, it should be banned. It would make animation source look bad. I don't think any of us want that.

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 Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:56 pm 
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Balto Source is facing something that could make it or break it. On the one hand, we have people who wish to pervert and corrupt the site, making it unusably inappropriate for children, who are one of the age groups the site is designated for. In addition, it has the potential to slow down traffic on the site, due to the fact that the effects would repel those with good morals, among whom I can be counted. This is my basic opinion of why the petition initiated and supported by Dragon Tamer must be acted upon immediately. Anyone who challenges these opinions will be in conversation with Dragon Tamer, because I may not be available for awile. To those who support the petition and show good morals, I appluad you because you have shown as bright lights in a dark world, and have not strayed following the path of those who would lead all astray as sheep to the slaughter. To those who oppose the petition, woe to you because your views have been darkened by one who is worse than yourselves. In closing, I urge all involved to find the light in this matter and follow it instead of the darkness.

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 Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:07 pm 
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Ahhh...interesting well they should not, as long as these fics don't describe, sexual movements, sexual parts, or most of the story to be "lusty" its fine for me, so please stop such drama, in the ratins PG-13 is meant for a fic that can contain this (sexual themes, viloence, swearing and cursin with inapropiate words etc), if everyone wanted their fics to be kid-friendly, a PG-13 woudln't exist. I vote no, as much as I'm against certain themes, lets not make the site to conservative, but neither with much liberalism, lets keep things as they are now, it's perfectly fine for me.



Whether intentional or non-intentional, what you just said is incredibly selfish. Going 'Oh, everything's fine for me!' adds nothing to the topic. Furthermore, PG-13 is welcomed, because it gives a sort of warning that states some material might not be suitable for children. But nothing too graphic. Maybe a destroyed vein oozing blood from a fight. Nothing too bad. And PG-13 could be attached to those fics that have the "fade-to-dark" method of mating, which is perfectly fine. A simple hint of what's to come. That's all.


Look people, there are two sides to this. And it's a d**n shame that the side supporting the content to be allowed on this site, is blind in one eye and can't see out of the other. It's also a d**n shame when the only fight you can put up is "because we like it/because we can/because people can't tell us what to do!". The only safe haven anyone with that mindset has is with each other. Teens, for the most part, probably wouldn't mind that stuff. But some of us can see past our noses, and realize that that content is detrimental to the younger crowd on this site.

Quit being selfish. Give up and go to Deviant Art.


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 Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:20 pm 
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the last thing we need is another Hitler (only in this case; the gays would be the ones targeted). I'm not saying that doing this on BS would have a large impact, but we all know that even the slightest spark may erupt into a giant fire.

Look, Lux, I've not seen any reason to argue with you about your beliefs...and we ALL are entitled to believe what we want (no matter how little scientific evidence may be in one's opinions, and how those opinions might be fueled by liberal mentality and political correctness), but do you mean to suggest that anyone who does not accept homosexuals with open arms (or even tolerance) is comparable to Adolph Hitler???

I REALLY hope that was not calculated to get this topic locked, or to silence the discussion. That's not like you, Lux.

And it is DEFINITELY enflammatory to even suggest (perhaps even accidentally) that anyone who mistrusts, dislikes, or even hates homosexuals is a Nazi, or anything like Adolph Hitler. That comment, whether or not you meant it that way, was in VERY poor taste, and should be removed.

:|

Gay and Bisexuals was one of the many groups that hitler created to "organize" the prisoners. other groups he had were children, jews, the homeless, antisocials, criminals and a few more. anyyone not of that "perfect" race were classified into groups like these.

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 Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:31 pm 
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Gay and Bisexuals was one of the many groups that hitler created to "organize" the prisoners. other groups he had were children, jews, the homeless, antisocials, criminals and a few more. anyyone not of that "perfect" race were classified into groups like these.

That still has nothing to do with the question steet posed, nor does it justify an implication (whether accidental or intentional) that anyone who has a problem with gays is comparable to an insane fascist and Nazi.

THIS aspect of the discussion needs to be stopped immediately. And I still say that comment should be withdrawn. I have no problem with other aspects of what he said at all (even if I disagree with a lot of it). As I said, he has every right to post his contribution here, and his opinion. But that Hitler comment was ill-advised.

nuh, that wasn't the point of my post. just clearing up exactly WHERE the discussion of hitler being brought up by lux could have possibly come from is all. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:33 pm 
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I'm not saying that doing this on BS would have a large impact, but we all know that even the slightest spark may erupt into a giant fire.

Look, Lux, I've not seen any reason to argue with you about your beliefs...and we ALL are entitled to believe what we want (no matter how little scientific evidence may be in one's opinions, and how those opinions might be fueled by liberal mentality and political correctness), but do you mean to suggest that anyone who does not accept homosexuals with open arms (or even tolerance) is comparable to Adolph Hitler???

I REALLY hope that was not calculated to get this topic locked, or to silence the discussion. That's not like you, Lux.

And it is DEFINITELY enflammatory to even suggest (perhaps even accidentally) that anyone who mistrusts, dislikes, or even hates homosexuals is a Nazi, or anything like Adolph Hitler. That comment, whether or not you meant it that way, was in VERY poor taste, and should be removed.

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That was not my intention at all to make it seem that way. However, it was used as an example of what can happen, even by the smallest thing.
Though I agree it was a bad example, and has thus been changed.


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 Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:37 pm 
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Ah well, I changed the post. It was not my intention at all to make it seem the way you interpreted it; it was simply a quite bad example (imagery, if you'd call it that). It's been changed; sorry for any inconvenience caused by it.


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 Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:50 pm 
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In any case, there are a lot of factors to consider regarding banning -all- deviant-sexual content. Certain limitations some members may like, and some may not. And banning one subject and not another can cause those on the former's "side", so to speak, to revolt and that in turn can cause disputes and uncomfort here on BaltoSource. Banning all of it could lower our memberbase - and possible future members too (remember; some people could interpret the ban of a subject wrong and take it as a personal offense - seen so many times on BaltoSource before).

However, we also need to consider what is best for the website and try to adapt it to the members themselves and try - regardless of how impossible it is - to make everyone happy.
And if deviant-sexual subjects like incest (etc.) are not banned, it might give BaltoSource reputation we do not wrong. However, banning it entirely could also backfire and still give us the wrong reputation.

I realize this isn't as relevant for a children's website specifically, but the Animation Source community is worldwide nonetheless, and I am concerned about the result either way.


[Edit]: Adding to that, most of BaltoSource's members are 15+ years of age, and some are even adults. It is a question about cause and effect - what would really happen if this and that was banned, and they and those were not?


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