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I loved the 1st ADGTH as a kid and I still like it (It was Don Bluth's best), the 2nd was....okay...but I absolutely HATED the animated series and I credit it as the thing that ultimately killed the franchise..

On another note, Don DeLuise played Itchy for the entire duration of the ADGTH franchise, played Tiger in all of the American Tail movies, AND also played Jeremy the Crow in the Secret Of NIMH movies (including the crappy sequel).

I liked most of them only in my oppinion they seemed to have "cleaned up" carface a bit much and dumbed him down ALOT on both the secound film and the series. I understend charlie after being in heaven for a while he could have changed but carface was always mean spirted and evil. The scound film and seires made him cowardly and stupid which he wasn't in the first film.



Hey when did carface die? he was in heaven in the scound film what did him in?

He was eaten by an borderline-gay alligator about the size of a yacht in the first one, and in the second got dragged to Hell by his feet; which makes his inclusion in the series itself irrelevant...The same with Killer...And since the movies took place nearly 50 years apart, there's no way that Itchy should've still been alive.

totly forgot about the gator. but technicilly no one besides the kids( mary from the first film and i forge the boys name) should be alive if that were the case the seires would have to revovle around their great great gand pups depeanding how long they lived. But for the kids sake and i guess ratings they kept them the same age as part 2. The seires was a bit dumb now that i think about it but when your like 4 or 6 years old all this stuff never crosses your mind

yeah, I hated what they did to Carface too in the Sequel by making him a lowly sidekick..(Can you imagine Scar or Steele being treated that way?) though I think Belladonna was cool though in the Christmas Carol..

also,gah! I hated the way they ruined Whippet Angel/Annabelle.. she was so beautiful in the first film and had a nice voice. but in the series ermm.. I'd rather hear nails on a chalkboard..

also, ADGTH 2 Charlie seems to forget that Carface killed him in the 1st movie.. and he's way too nice to C.F ..


I am glad they brought back Killer in the series and they showed C.F's past in the C.C (though I think the timeline was off)..


I was never really clear if Flo and Charlie were an item in the 1st one.. his bio says he's part collie so I'm not sure if she was his sister or just a friend..

I love them too and even if they didn't make a number three, I came up with an idea for number three! Too bad they aren't making it. ): I also loved Carface and felt bad for him at the end of the second one.

I loved both films. It kinda left a cliffhanger at the end of the second one... I want them to make a third so that cliffhanger will be destroyed!


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I grew up watching ADGTH, it was one of my favorite movie's as a kid. The second one was OK, but to me it seemed like the characters personalities were changed a little to much. I mean in the first movie Charlie had that con-man who gives a crap attitude, and then in the second movie he seem all nice and fun loving.
OK this is what I don't understand in the second movie Charlie and Sasha were in love right, then in the series they pretty much hated each other, seriously what gives, anyone care to explain that one. BTW Itchy died from choking on a piece of chicken, take a look at the scene in the second movie when he first gets to heaven, if you play it slow you will see him cough it up. Edit, Wow this has to be my longest post, I'm normally short on words.

By "50 years" I mean "50 HUMAN years". Think about it: the 1st one took place in 1939. The 2nd took place in either 1995 or 1996. So, there was actually a FIFTY-TWO to FIFTY-THREE (human) year gap between the two films. So, unless Itchy and Killer were somehow Immortal, there's NO CONCEIVABLE WAY that they could still be alive; since, in reality, dogs can actually live up to twenty years tops.

i blame charlie's chage in attidue for him being in heaven for however long he was up there to many 'good' influences. To be fair tho I always found him fun loving but also one of those guys u only know in passing. The seires messed up a bunch of things. The fact that Charlie and Sasha weren't still staying at with the young boy together which from the end of the secound film seemingly concludes was evidence enough. The xmas charol messsed up as well seeing as how they neglected to add charlie in carface's past and the fact that Itchy didnt know of his past seein as how the first film explained they were all partners at some point