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Cho was crazy to kill all those people.If you want people to like you, you have to be friends with them first!It's crazy just to hate people for something they didn't even do!Cho couldn't have been stopped and he can't be now because it's over with.If we could restart time which we can't sure we could maybe stop him but I doubt it.So let's just take this and think that life was set to be like this.We can't change not now...not ever.Maybe in the future when/if we have time machines we can go back in time and stop him but when we go back to the future probably everything will be changed.


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We were discussing this in class today, and my whole class agreed that a law should be changed in the USA. Getting hold of a gun over there is way too easy, getting a license is too simple. We have a strict law here in the UK to prevent usage of guns, and are only used to hunt animals and vermin. When they apply for a license to get a gun, they should take trips to their homes and search and have a very good look into their backround history. If America took this into account then maybe something like this happening again won't be too high...


Guns aren't a bad thing unless they're in bad hands. I agree that it may be too easy to get a gun over here in the US, but how can we make it harder? Gun sellers already do background checks before selling guns to anyone, and searching through the houses of prospective buyers would take a little too much effort, don't you think? (If you sold guns for a living and twenty people who each wanted to buy one came to you in the same day, doing a search of each of their houses would seem a little overwhelming.)

Why not copy a European law? Theys seem to work out fine (correction: or at least slightly).

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I know this may sound really weird, so if you think I'm crazy,...I'm not sure if I told you guys about my dreams.
ever since we got back from my disney, I've been having these dreams. In every one, I was in a classroom, with grey carpet and desks and a old teacher up front, with grey hair and a friendly voice. Now, i don't remember a lot, but I DO remember getting under a desk and hearing screams as well as smelling blood. I heard gunshots echo through the room and saw the teacher get in front of the door. I remember seeing blood cover the carpet and terror filling the air. I remember seeing a guy wearing all black, but I couldn't see his face. I would wake up screaming every time.
I recently got my dreams tested and they showed me pictures of the Virgina Tech classrooms at Norris and I started to freak out...that was the classroom. I soon realized that my dreams were a little out-of-the-ordinary, and I ended up having dreams about the Virgina Tech shooting. I had dreams during 9-11 but we shrugged that off.

So, this may sound crazy, but it's true...sorry if I'm freaking you guys out but it's freaking me out too.

VT was a terrible thing, as some of my friend go to VT. None of them were injured nor in Norris Hall. ONE was in AJ and heard shots, but other than that....why would someone choose to do this to others?


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I herd about this on the news. Pretty sad.


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You think the world was ending this week with all the massacure's and school threats.

Columbine
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4 school threats in my area(not at my school though)
They found a suspicious package at Tempe,AZ.
Then today you have a person at NASA that killed someone and toke his own life.

This will most likely this week will go down in history as having the most threats and stuff.

The Virgina Tech massacure could've been avoided if somebody would've just open their eyes for once. Cho was caught twice in 2005 stalking two girls and photographing them. He also was suicidal and was an "immediate danger to himself". He wrote papers in this language class about killing people and the teacher told the school and the school said it "is freedom of speech". A "freedom of speech" that cost 32 people their lives, becuase everybody kept ignoring and bullying him. Also after the two dorm killing it was before school and the campus still had school, they could've cancelled it and saved lives.

I know school's need a better plan for threats like this. At my school when we have an introuder drill we lock the door turn, off the lights and huddle together in the corner. Some of the classrooms that I have don't have windows so we wouldn't be able to escape when the introuder is at the door. It's like sending us to the slaughter house. I would rather run out the window or door than stay in a corner waiting to get shot. Or evern retailate against the person. Not just sitting in a corner.

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Also after the two dorm killing it was before school and the campus still had school, they could've canceled it and saved lives.


They thought they had already caught the person that did it so they saw no immediate threat. They took that guy in for questioning right after the 2nd shooting occurred, any way this is not a high school this is 25,000 people. Many of which are coming from off campus (about 17,000) it's hard to stop them all that soon.

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What a horrible tragedy, what kind of mental case would do such a thing. In my opinion if at least one of those students was able to carry a gun they would have been able to stop that maniac before he killed all those people. Personally it seems as if its to easy for criminals to get guns, mean-while it take an arm and a leg for law-abiding citizens to get them. It makes me sick that this Cho Seung-Hui was able to pull off such madness.


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What a horrible tragedy, what kind of mental case would do such a thing. In my opinion if at least one of those students was able to carry a gun they would have been able to stop that maniac before he killed all those people. Personally it seems as if its to easy for criminals to get guns, mean-while it take an arm and a leg for law-abiding citizens to get them. It makes me sick that this Cho Seung-Hui was able to pull off such madness.


That's why Gun Control is a bad thing. All it does is take gun out of the hands of law abiding citizens and leaves the criminals with all the guns.

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Also after the two dorm killing it was before school and the campus still had school, they could've canceled it and saved lives.


They thought they had already caught the person that did it so they saw no immediate threat. They took that guy in for questioning right after the 2nd shooting occurred, any way this is not a high school this is 25,000 people. Many of which are coming from off campus (about 17,000) it's hard to stop them all that soon.


That's why you have the police there. So when the students drive through the parking lot's entrence's they police can stop the car and tell them to be careful and everything. I know you can't tell everybody about the two dorm killings but, atleast the students's coming off campus would've atleast had a chance of knowing about it by word of mouth.

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My grandad,killed by a car.Both of my grandads died before I born.

This topic isn't about death its SPECIFICALLY for the tragedy at Virginia Tech. Respect the fact please. We all will die but this is a dedicated topic to the event on 4/16/07

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Yea that's the only thing that's been on the news here >> There was actually a guy who sacrificed himself to lock the door or something to save all the students inside. In one student's account, he said that they actually had to jump out the window.

To elaborate on what Doby said, one of the professors sacrificed himself to lock the door...and he was a Holocaust survivor to... :cry:


And bet you didn't know he was Romanian. His name was Liviu Librescu. What a loss....


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I couldn't believe this when I heard it. I honestly didn't think that there would be a worse school shooting than Columbine. Shows how wishful I was...

I can't imagine what would make a person do that. I know from the news that I watched, it said the first girl Cho had shot and killed was his ex-girlfriend. Then he shot a RA (or someone like that) along with wounding at least 9 people I believe.

After he went to a dorm. It wasn't his, though. I think it was a friend's dorm is what they said. He took a shower and did things NORMAL people would do. That's probably what creeps me out the most is him acting as if he HADN'T just shot and killed two people along with wounding more.

Within the other time between the two shootings, he mailed his tape to NBC. If you watch the clips on YouTube (and some - expecially children - will not want to. It's distrubing) Cho said "they made me do it" among other weird things. I mean.. no one made him do it. HE did. He said how people had to pay and all this. It was honestly very.. chilling.. I guess you would say. Just how crazy that guy was.

While he was doing all of that, the cops were pratrolling the highways and everything, thinking he would have fled. This (from my eyes) is one of the sadder events just because he was RIGHT THERE the whole time. He didn't leave like everyone thought. He was right there a few doors from his own dorm waiting to strike again. If they had searched around there, maybe they could have caught him and it would have been a two death school shooting. Not the biggest in America's history.

I'm not even going to go into detail - or much anything - about the shooting that took place two hours after the first. It makes me very sick, though. How can someone purposly take people's lives? And killing himself is taking the easy way out. Which - if you look at it a certian way - shows that he wasn't brave. He was a cowardly idoit. Someone who wanted their fame and glory - which he got on the news.

But there is something that makes me think he didn't orginally plan to kill himself at the end. His original plan was pretty much become another Hitler and get rid of all Chirstans and another large religious group. Which is very distrubing. What could mess someone up THAT BAD to want to do that? There's no way to describe what he did except for an act of pure evil. That's it. What he did was evil.

I feel such sympathy for all the families who lost loved ones and friends. It was a very tragic event that won't be forgotten by anyone. Who knows - maybe they'll have someone who survived or a parent/sibling of someone who died become a speaker to go around to school like they did with the Columbine shooting. That will at least get the word out of more ways to stop this from happening again. Though we all probably know how this will end up happening again.

It's a very sad tragity that could have - one way or the other - been avoided. Or at least lessened. But what's done is done and hopefuly America will open its eyes more to this type of thing.

May all the 32 victims rest in peace.

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What a horrible tragedy, what kind of mental case would do such a thing. In my opinion if at least one of those students was able to carry a gun they would have been able to stop that maniac before he killed all those people. Personally it seems as if its to easy for criminals to get guns, mean-while it take an arm and a leg for law-abiding citizens to get them. It makes me sick that this Cho Seung-Hui was able to pull off such madness.


That's why Gun Control is a bad thing. All it does is take gun out of the hands of law abiding citizens and leaves the criminals with all the guns.

In Virginia, law abiding citizens can buy semi-automatic handguns. The shooter was a law abiding citizen (until he became the shooter anyway) and used his right to buy a gun. Then he shot 32 people.
Armed citizens are more likely to shoot each other than to shoot criminals, and criminals are less likely to to shoot citizens if those citizens are not armed. And that's why strict gun laws are necessary.

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That is so sad! I can't believe that someone would even think about doing that! It's a sham, maybe he was crazy and needed to do something or whatever. I'll never get over that!

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