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Starsky, I totally agree with you on this one. Wolves need to eat and they would, wonder towards humans on purpose. Humans need to hunt deer cause it's that season and their population is too high. I think Kovu is wrong about this one.

I'm not talking about wolves simply "killing" humans. Such things happen often, as most people don't know how to act towards predatory animals. I'm talking about learned, and therefore intentionally performed predation on people. Almost any predator is known for doing that, most famously the cats, of course, as they've physical attributes that easily allow them performing such action, a bit less famously in representants of the dog-likes... but they do it. It's all a matter of circumstances. Humans are relatively easy to tackle, if they're unarmed, way easier to tackle than deer or elks. In old age or infirmity it's natural for predators to switch to easier and less risky prey, and if they get often in contact with humans, they can make occasional experiences on how easy it actually is with them. Once learned and adapted in a family, a true outbreak of man-eating can occur in certain areas. With wolves it's simply the way that they get often enough experiences of how dangerous mankind is - it's their fear that avoids them getting in contact with us, so that they hardly ever learn something about our daytime rythms, behavior and social structure.


Oh, there you're wrong. USUALLY they hunt such game, yes. The advantage of these animals is that they're usually widely spread and exist in large populations. But any active predator, hence - not those who primarily scavenge, have to go through bottlenecks, when their prefered prey species get scarce. In such a case they can't be choosy, and have to adapt their hunting skills to new species... that clearly doesn't exclude humans from their prey range.


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Listen, people - it's not my intention to draw a "bad" picture of wolves here, or that I'd want to attack you with my comments. I'm simply stating facts.

Wolves need to be "killers", for their own survival. Yet that doesn't make them bad creatures. They have their social and lovely sides, that's true... but you should never forget that they are predators... and there's absolutely no natural reason why a wolf shouldn't consider humans being their prey.

We're, although we perform a cruel rape of natural environments and their inhabitants, part of the global ecosystem - same as all other species (animals, plants, funghi...)... and being part of that ecosystem means to eat or being eaten... that's a natural law. And that can't decide about being good or bad. Yet we need to be aware of that law - as that law is what all species follow.

You know what? You need to start DOCUMENTING your facts. The originator of this topic was referring to wolves killing humans. And I have seen very little documentation of wolf attacks in all but rare cases. And usually, either the animal is in some way sick or else provoked and left no option.

So...documentation time. Otherwise, simply stating what it is you do doesn't make you a wolf biologist or canine behaviorist. Present documentation, or drop it.

True, very true.

Just out of interest, are you a wolf biologist, Sepalla?

howl.gif Bah only if you fear the animal you die. I have friend that dose have one, that wolf will kill ya if he wants. Pick up my lab by the neck and rag doll her. So yea very powerful animal even so I have my ways to make him listen most case you jump on the dog and pull back on his mouth. Work on any canine, that what my friend dose to keep his wolf to mine him if he start bitting someone or trying to kill other animal. Rarely happens just when he was younger and with my dog Sam, that wolf already pushing 13 years.

If you wish to meet this wolf, it's at your own risk Really any one can fight off any powerful animal maybe help with some very basic tools ~my fav two rock in the hand and start hitting~ if it more than 200 pounds good luck lol If it's pack of animals, I say run

Not only did this post not make much sense, it is borderline enflammatory. Not very smart. This is a SERIOUS topic, not a place for immature grandstanding.

Nothing make sense with you dose it? That why I stop Rping "two line post got old"

Ok to give little more light to my post, I'm talking about that people say they don't "fear wolves, we are top predators" but let me take you on little walk in my area and see how long you would last. Just you and the world around you, I had lot of fear when it came to wild animals, but then I started to get closer to them. Started with raccoon that came by and move up to coyotes, foxes, wolves and mountain lions. I don't think I'm going to move up the ladder anymore.

Stop with the "Not very smart line" your just like anyone else here. Person at the computer, that all. There all kinds ways you can be smart. I know my word choice and gammera are like 5th grade level here. I put my time into creative and logic.

Here my line "I find animals a better date, than most of you pin heads" I remember I said that in fur group while back, that went well. Power to animals, Respect the life around us that made our dreams come true.

Note: This is what I see every morning, I'm 50 miles away from anything, only thing I got is a computer and the two best canine

I got to move out or I'm going to go crazy, 10 years of this and only go to town once a week. AHAHA I'm selling this house!!!

Fox

Nah, if you spend more than 4 hours a day on the computer than you got issues. My life is the computer when I was 16 years old I started ebay thing so my income set then 5 years before that I became a furry. Now I have people to talk to. So I'm good

I'm here in this forum to talk with other that have something for Balto or animals. I speak only the truth, this is me and there no one else. Ya I might be little crazy, but hey I respect animals and if my life ever had to be taken I hope it's by animal. SO YAY to wolves!!!

Fox a.k.a Foxler

Well look like I'm done here, Nala wants out