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*I* did not introduce it. Yes, I may have gotten off topic. But let's not get confused as to who's starting what (although i suppose it would be accurate if *I* started something, because I ALWAYS start SOMETHING). Now (and i believe i've stated this before), I'm telling everyone not to bring their problems here if it has nothing to do with them. This topic to pointed towards those who can relate to it, not to those who can't.

"Telling" rarely gets results. "Asking" usually does. You know the old saying: "you attract more bees with honey than you ever will with vinegar" (or words to that effect).

I edited my last two posts...please observe before you reply again. It might help direct this little chat better.

Why don't you PM me or make a topic directed towards my getting offended? I'm tired of the space getting wasted on a topic I made SPECIFICALLY for people who had experience with copied fanfics.

Perhaps because I am completely disinterested in another battle with you, Cat. I have better ways of spending my time here on Balto Source; these battles, over what is really petty misunderstandings of what I've said or meant, are very exasperating. I will not waste my time, or have others (or myself) drawn into more of it.

You have GOT to learn to stop looking at every difference of opinion, which someone has with you, as an attack, or an attempt to start a flame war. And you've got to stop trying to find ways of inciting one when someone pushes your buttons. YOU get offended far too easily.

I have not approached this with the intent of flaming or battling with you. Only you have perceived it as such. I've said my peace. Now I'm withdrawing from this. And no, I will not entertain the invitation to another fight...no matter how cleverly or subtlely it may be worded...

Thank you for being done.

I'm probably a bit late but can I just point out I'm not a homophobe, I personally think that taking the innocense away from a nice cartoon story and putting adult 'themes' on it is just a bit wrong. I'm not saying homosexuality is wrong (but incest is!!) or doesn't happen in the animal kingdom (it does but is different to humans), I just don't want to think about Balto characters at it. I don't want to think about Balto characters doing anything sexual because they are animals .

I'm not complaining because no one has forced me to read anything, I did read one of your homosexual themed stories out of pure interest Cat, and you are a good writer, I felt quite sorry for little gay Kodi at the end.

Yeah, I must agree with you on that Cat. I'e had that happen a few times, and I've been accused of copying someone else's idea. It's really an inconvinient annoyance.


Well, I have a friend that does that, but it really doesn't annoy me. However, I have read some, and if you're in high school, and you still can't get ypou grammar right, you're in serious trouble down the road. Use a fan fiction as a fun way to improve your english skills before you get that steel slap from the business world. No employer will hire someone who can't spell or use proper grammar.



hmm...caught me off guard with that one. I have nothing to say about this....next topic.



See it, hate it, wanna shoot the author for it. I can see when a person uses the characters of another author, and the settings and such, and - here's the big one - asks permission to use them. But if you think you can get away with plagarising someone else's works and claiming them for yourself, I've got one word for ya. Lawsuit. Yeah, I know no-one in their right minds would sue someone for copying an idea, but this is where the definitive line between plagarising and permission copying is skewed. Just like Greykitty and Drew put a copyright on Jack in this trailer, an author can just as easily put a copyright on their characters (for a price). So unless you are positively sure that there isn't a copyright on the story, don't use any ideas without asking first. Not doing so would make you; a) an unoriginal moron, and b) a complete tool.



Ahh yes, originality. It's a lost art. I must admit that I had problems with original ideas, but now they are over. Other authors may take a few days to find a original idea, while some take years. But I think the majority don't try and find one, they just use a similar theme and run with it.



Amen to that Cat.

As long as it's not graphically portrayed, right?

Because I thought that's what I heard . . .

And besides, no one has a problem with my fics in the first place (and I haven't been told to change my fics anyway, so I'm assuming that my previous incest fics are still acceptable to the rules). In other words, just because the rules are different doesn't mean that they (or whoever is now in charge of the fic dept.) will get me to stop posting them. It's what my fans want to read. They like my stories (probably because I don't use really "graphic" descriptions for *cough* certain parts.), and I'm sticking to them . . . whether you like them or not.

And to answer your question, Ac: I merely introduced the idea of an incestuous relationship. Everyone else that saw it and got inspired to destroy the fandom with their poorly-written, plotless pieces of flaming incest fics have caused this, not me. So, don't blame me.

And besides, how else would animals reproduce anyway unless they "do it?" Right? I don't see why someone would write a story about only that without a storyline to go with it (or at least insert it in a decreet matter at least). The "gay" fics are different though. It's a sign of the times, so deal with it.

And I hope that this doesn't cause a war or anything. We really don't need something like this right now, and I only want to speak my mind because I've almost had it. Can't we just talk like normal people? The problem's been solved already and all we can do is hope that the appropriate moderators do their jobs right to avoid any other mishaps or slip-ups.

- Juuchan17

Talk like normal people? Incest isn't normal lol.

I don't think people are understanding what I am trying to say. These movies have a child like innocense about them where such issues like sex are not a part of it. Introducing these issues changes things and to me that is what is wrong. It makes it even more wrong when you put these aberrant human behaviours on them. I'm not blaming anyone by the way, I'm just stating my opinion on it.

Your 100% right though, animals do in fact have sex, I know this I have helped raise several litters of husky pups so you can imagine I have seen enough doggy style to last a life time! But the difference is animals have sex for one thing and that is to reproduce (except dolphins but they are perves anyway lol), animals don't have sex for fun, they don't have anything like a human relationship. Sure you get bonded pairs etc and you assume that it would be a pleasurable experience but we can only assume that it is completely different. LOL sometime incest does happen too just because of dominance in e.g. a wolf pack or the fragmented diversity of the species but it isn't a taboo human style fettish or anything like it.

I don't think half the people here really realise what is wrong about all this! Does the word bestiality mean anything to you? Inserting a storyline around a sexual scene is the same as a porn movie, I can't say it is something I would want and I am surprised so many people here do want it!

Hmm. I understand your opinion, Ac . . . really, I do.

Yes, I know incest isn't normal . . . but god-darn it, it's a STORY. It's only a work of fiction that couldn't really happen in real-life because the movies never existed in real-life (and neither did the characters like his pups and Jenna and the such, if you think about Balto real-life counterpart).

And besides, it makes a darn good story that has everything: drama (both social and personal-wise), romance (even if it is forbidden), and suspense (even if the world goes against their love, can they still remain together happily?).

Okay, almost everything. ^__^

But, what you said about "movies having child-like innocence" in them . . . you have a point - and I have mine. How else could two lovers make children in an animated movie? Without showing it, of course. (Think about "Lady and the Tramp" for instance. Balto_Seppala knows what I'm talking about here, so I don't need to say anything else.) Not exactly "child-like", is it? (And still all of those films are rated G . . . at least they don't show it.)

And actually, I don't like that sort of thing . . . making a story like a porn film (ew.), but at least no one's written a dog/human fic yet. Because THAT would be awkwardly gross.

- Juuchan17

I haven't seen Lady and the Tramp in a long long time so I can't really say much to that.

LOL I did almost say something along the lines of a fanfic dog/human thing going on but I didn't want to give anyone ideas

Wow. I have a point there.

balto~claw stop your BSing while you're ahead.

My fanfic doesn't have any incest,or anything like that,It's about a surprise that Dusty has for Balto and Jenna,I'd say what it is,but that would ruin it.

Okay . . . and this is an example of a "good fic", yes? One that everyone could read - no gayness, no incest, and no bad stuff whatsoever. Everyone rejoice.

*sarcasm*

I'll check that out, SF, but really (no offense) that reply is pointless (but it does make a point: There are lots more fics out there to focus on other than the gay/incest ones.).

- Juuchan17