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 Post subject: Re: Kodi and Dusty's pupps.....
PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:35 pm 
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Okay, granted, I interchanged the words "history" and "reality" a bit more than their definitions would allow. But the point's the same; the storyline, and thus the characters in it, don't operate under the same rules as the real world, so it's silly to appeal to real-life patterns of dog breeding (or lack thereof) with regard to them. Not to mention it defeats your earlier reasoning - reasoning which is itself flawed. I hate to break it to you, but you're not at all likely to convince anyone with your logic who's not already convinced. And if you did, it would be a pretty poor victory as it would take a maximum of five minutes in serious thought or discussion to change their mind back again.

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I think they would be a decent couple, seeing as how they are both strong willed.

I know it was implied that Ralph and Dusty were an item in the film, but I feel that Kodi's character is more interesting and likable than Ralph's.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who believes this, and my guess is that supporters of Kodi/Dusty would rather pair the more interesting/likable characters.

Not sure how the pups would look though. Probably cute enough!


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Actually, Estamos, I did leave this argument behind until I saw that NY had re-awakened it. Besides, you haven't defended your points at all. You just keep saying, "Kodi didn't have a real change of heart" and don't provide any substantial evidence to back it up. Also, your supporters (last I checked) never liked Kodi to begin with, proving my point that you couldn't convince anyone who wasn't already convinced.

As for me contradicting my counterpoints, please show me how they contradict. So far, I have pointed out that 1) Kodi's willingness to stand up to his teammates, even going so far as to all but say he would quit the team flat-out, demonstrated that his change of heart was more than just a "because Mommy told me to" response. 2) What mushers typically do with sled dogs (and that's assuming the info your side has presented is accurate, which I somewhat doubt) is not necessarily altogether relevant in this case, since these dogs fo not operate the same way real dogs do. I mean just for example, if normal breeding practices were applied to Jenna, she would have probably ended up with Steele, whom any sane person will acknowledge was an even worse mate than Kodi or Ralph could ever be. So if she got out of the usual arrangement, why couldn't Kodi and Dusty?

And thanks, Taylor. Glad to see someone's not scared off by a handful of contradictory Kodi-haters.

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Just to add to the point, I don't /hate/ Kodi, so that's not what's convincing me that he's a really bad choice. I just think he's a really boring character (not to mention a poor role model). I /hate/ Aleu. The hate is there. Estamos definitely had very good points xD Especially that of Kodi being a really bad father, which I hadn't even put into play before because I don't even think Kodi would end up with /anyone/.


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Truth be told DragonTamer, I had only read MAYBE the first two pages to see what the common format for the answers would be, and then I just answered the original post.

Looking back through some of the posts, I gather that Kodi was generally an unpopular character.

I thought he was a decent enough character. Started off a bit narrow minded and buckled to peer pressure, but he came around by the end!


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Just to add to the point, I don't /hate/ Kodi, so that's not what's convincing me that he's a really bad choice. I just think he's a really boring character (not to mention a poor role model). I /hate/ Aleu. The hate is there. Estamos definitely had very good points xD Especially that of Kodi being a really bad father, which I hadn't even put into play before because I don't even think Kodi would end up with /anyone/.


Pretty much my view exactly. I honestly don't care for any of the characters in Balto 3, I just think Dusty in Ralph look cute together. Despite being idiotic, at least Ralph's more interesting and amusing than Kodi.

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Looking back through some of the posts, I gather that Kodi was generally an unpopular character.

I thought he was a decent enough character. Started off a bit narrow minded and buckled to peer pressure, but he came around by the end!

Who said popularity had anything to do with it? And exactly, he came around in the end. Which is just what I'm saying.

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Just to add to the point, I don't /hate/ Kodi, so that's not what's convincing me that he's a really bad choice. I just think he's a really boring character (not to mention a poor role model).

You think Balto's a boring character too, last I checked. And semantics aside, the point is that on some level you've been antagonistic toward Kodi and most of his fans for longer than I've been on this site.

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Estamos definitely had very good points xD Especially that of Kodi being a really bad father, which I hadn't even put into play before because I don't even think Kodi would end up with /anyone/.

On the contrary, I believe I've seen you play that card quite a few times. "He's so obsessed with his job that he'd never pay attention to his family." Which completely ignores the whole point of his role in the movie, namely learning that some things are more important than his dream career. You don't pay attention, do you?

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Pretty much my view exactly. I honestly don't care for any of the characters in Balto 3, I just think Dusty in Ralph look cute together. Despite being idiotic, at least Ralph's more interesting and amusing than Kodi.

"Amusing." "A" being a prefix and meaning "without or against," and "muse," deriving from the Greek word denoting thought or inspiration (as in the Muses).

What do you know? I guess he is more amusing.

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Pretty much my view exactly. I honestly don't care for any of the characters in Balto 3, I just think Dusty in Ralph look cute together. Despite being idiotic, at least Ralph's more interesting and amusing than Kodi.

"Amusing." "A" being a prefix and meaning "without or against," and "muse," deriving from the Greek word denoting thought or inspiration (as in the Muses).

What do you know? I guess he is more amusing.


And in English "amuse" means "to entertain or occupy in a light, playful, or pleasant manner" or "to appeal to the sense of humor of".

So yes, Ralph actually is more amusing than Kodi to some people.

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People who have no taste for dedication, sure. Maybe Kodi was excessively dedicated to his job, but at least he was dedicated to something, and something good at that.

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Thank you, Tibb.

I'll say again: who says Dusty was looking for anything long-term? She doesn't seem like the settle-down family type to me at all. Her and Ralph just seem happy together, they make each other laugh and are always seen having a good time. She's a joker, just like Ralph, while Kodi is too serious. I wouldn't want the all-work and no play type either. Boooring.

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Rebel, you keep saying Kodi was all work and no play as if the endless repetition will make it true. It doesn't. He knew how to have fun at the appropriate time. And Dusty's priorities changed in the course of the movie. Did it ever occur to you that maybe learning to look out for things besides her own self-interest (and let's face it, that was the main point of the movie as far as the whole team went) might have triggered other changes in her priorities as well?

And before you accuse me of repetition as well, may I remind you that what I am saying actually fits the movie?

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I think someone with drawing talent (not myself, I have none) should draw cute pictures of Dusty and Kodi's pups to take our minds from this arguing.

I say both sides have valid arguing points, but I agree with Dragon_Tamer that one of whole points of the film was change. I'm pretty sure that the whole mail team learned a valuable lesson in prioritizing work and other things accordingly after the film.

It's not conclusive, of course, but I do think that that point of view is worth considering. Whether it affects relationships or not, it should be noted regardless.


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I don't see how saying Dusty and Kodi should be together "fits" the movie. At all. Because - here's a shocker - it doesn't! When Phil Weinstein himself says that the two characters were not supposed to be together at all that should really put it to rest. But some people like arguing about it just to hear themselves talk I guess. :]

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