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What is the better sequel?
Wolf Quest 56%  56%  [ 58 ]
Wings of Change 44%  44%  [ 45 ]
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 Post subject: Re: Wolf Quest or Wings of Change?
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 6:51 pm 
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I like WQ for its potential.

Say a rapper decided to try to make a metal album and his voice fit the style very well, but it just didn't work out as well as it could have. Would you diss the rapper for making a bad metal album even though he had potential in metal, or would you look forward to more metal?

Experimentation isn't all bad; it's just that WQ got the wrong end of it, and that's why people seem to dislike it so much.

That's a pretty poor choice of example to use with me, since I pretty much hate metal music across the board. And I'm convinced it's bad for the brain, based on what research I've heard about.

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That was the first thing that came to mind for me, seeing as I was half-asleep at the time. I've just never really understood all the hate on WQ because it was an experiment.

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Wolf_Bassist wrote:
And here: Perhaps this article might prove interesting.
http://www.godscare.net/witness/Iron%20Maiden.htm
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Touche, WB. There are some good metal musicians out there, but I've never been dim enough to condemn a style of music based on lyrics. A song, sure, but not a whole style. There's too much variety.

I'm talking about the effect of the sound itself. You've probably heard that Mozart makes kids smarter, and from what I understand that has been backed up by clinical testing. It's also been proven to be good for plants - in fact, plants grown next to speakers playing it actually grew in the direction of the speakers, as if they were going, "Give me more! Give me more! So you have a correlation between sounds that are good for plants and for brains.

On the other hand, when they tried the plant experiment with heavy metal, the plants suffered from stunted root growth, leaned away from the speakers, and pretty much withered and died.

Now admittedly I've never seen any information on tests about heavy metal music effecting mental development, but I figure if one is good for brains and plants, and the other is bad for plants, what does that suggest about the latter's effect on brains?

Again, just to reiterate, I recognize that there are some good metal musicians out there, and I applaud their efforts. I'm just saying that the music itself leaves something to be desired.

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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 7:45 am 
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Dragon Tamer wrote:
Wolf_Bassist wrote:
And here: Perhaps this article might prove interesting.
http://www.godscare.net/witness/Iron%20Maiden.htm
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Touche, WB. There are some good metal musicians out there, but I've never been dim enough to condemn a style of music based on lyrics. A song, sure, but not a whole style. There's too much variety.

I'm talking about the effect of the sound itself. You've probably heard that Mozart makes kids smarter, and from what I understand that has been backed up by clinical testing. It's also been proven to be good for plants - in fact, plants grown next to speakers playing it actually grew in the direction of the speakers, as if they were going, "Give me more! Give me more! So you have a correlation between sounds that are good for plants and for brains.

On the other hand, when they tried the plant experiment with heavy metal, the plants suffered from stunted root growth, leaned away from the speakers, and pretty much withered and died.

Now admittedly I've never seen any information on tests about heavy metal music effecting mental development, but I figure if one is good for brains and plants, and the other is bad for plants, what does that suggest about the latter's effect on brains?

Again, just to reiterate, I recognize that there are some good metal musicians out there, and I applaud their efforts. I'm just saying that the music itself leaves something to be desired.

Boy you are on a roll today. lol Now we're going to posit the effects of certain kinds of music, and whether or not they hypothetically stunt the growth of kiddies because of an experiment with plants? Image

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Boy you are on a roll today. lol Now we're going to posit the effects of certain kinds of music, and whether or not they hypothetically stunt the growth of kiddies because of an experiment with plants? Image

In effect, yes. This is how a lot of science experiments get started: someone goes "A does this, and B does that, I wonder what would happen if yadda yadda yadda?" They form a hypothesis based on available data, then figure out a way to test it. Regrettably I lack the means to test it, so I'm stuck being what is known as an "armchair scientist."

That aside, we are getting a little off-topic here.

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Dragon Tamer wrote:
In effect, yes. This is how a lot of science experiments get started: someone goes "A does this, and B does that, I wonder what would happen if yadda yadda yadda?" They form a hypothesis based on available data, then figure out a way to test it. Regrettably I lack the means to test it, so I'm stuck being what is known as an "armchair scientist."

That aside, we are getting a little off-topic here.

What's this "we" stuff, Chief? :lol: I just pointed it out. I'm not taking it in that direction.

But I know that if I don't decide to step away now...well, we all know how this dance rolls by now. ROFL

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JerseyCaptain wrote:
Dragon Tamer wrote:
In effect, yes. This is how a lot of science experiments get started: someone goes "A does this, and B does that, I wonder what would happen if yadda yadda yadda?" They form a hypothesis based on available data, then figure out a way to test it. Regrettably I lack the means to test it, so I'm stuck being what is known as an "armchair scientist."

That aside, we are getting a little off-topic here.

What's this "we" stuff, Chief? :lol: I just pointed it out. I'm not taking it in that direction.

But I know that if I don't decide to step away now...well, we all know how this dance rolls by now. ROFL

Touche.

Now back on the subject, I agree that Wolf Quest was a failed experiment, especially the whole mystical hoodoo shaman thing.

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For me I'd have to say WolfQuest. Wings of Change really bored me. But when it comes to all three movies. Original Balto all the way.

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