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Mac or PC?
Mac!(me: >.<) 9%  9%  [ 2 ]
PC(me: I love you!) 91%  91%  [ 20 ]
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i prefer a PC

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Evo wrote:
yea Macs pretty much suck. ever since i was typing a research paper on one at school a few years ago and it froze 2 pages into it. ever since then, ive hated Macs, not that i ever really liked them before.

Believe me, Macs also made the step into the 21st century, not only PCs.

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Windows is so much more intuitive to use than MAC OS X or any other mac os.

...wait - you say - you've always been a PC person... hence you "always used Windows". How come you can make a statement about HOW intuitive another Operating System is? Someone who always ran Unix systems could tell you exactly the opposite.

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PLuas macs are SO DANG SLOW!! i have never used a Powermac or an imac, but i imagine they are just as bad as the emacs.

There's exactly the problem: you imagine. You've never tried it. You imagine. If I'd relate such a statement about Windows to my very first own computer, which was powered by a Pentium 75MHz and running DOS with Windows 95, then I'd have to say... ey man... Windows is soo ***** slow and buggy, you know.

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I have never been able to figure out how to burn a CDRW or more importantly, erase a CDRW. It is frickin impossible.

I assume you've never heard anything about user-rights management, which is one of all Unix-related Systems greatest powers?

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the schools macs scrwed up 5 of my cd rw discs. macs suck. GO WITH WINDOWS XP OR VISTA!!!!

I'm pretty sure - somewhere out in this world you'll find another CD-Burner that screws Discs and runs on Windows. Additionally - didn't you say before - you didn't figure out how you can burn a CDRW? How come it screwed the discs then? ;)

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We used to use Macs at my school before we got a budget increase. I swear that I could drive 120miles@25mph faster then those pieces of crap could load a webpage or a long paper. They were the top of the line mac desktops from what I know of when I asked the lady that keeps the computers and the network working. Then we switched to PCs, and everything got easier. From the constant use of the two machines, I'll take a PC over a Mac computer.

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We used to use Macs at my school before we got a budget increase.

Considering the fact that your school had a low budget before, I assume that the desktops and connected machines weren't the newest ones as well.

I mean, seriously - at the technical school in Chaux-de-Fonds, which is actually one of the most modern schools you can visit to study deeper into a profession you've learned, they're running P500MHz machines with Windows 2000 SE and the Novell Networking client. The thing's so freakin' slow that my secondary (old) private computer, which is also a P500 and has about 128 MB RAM working memory and 32 MB RAM Graphics memory (I use it for testing Linux distributions), is a real pleasure to work with - even with the most recent updates of Linux and KDE.

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I swear that I could drive 120miles@25mph faster then those pieces of crap could load a webpage or a long paper.

That with the "webpage" has nothing to do with the operating system itself. It's the LAN and the internet connection that decides over the loading time.

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They were the top of the line mac desktops from what I know of when I asked the lady that keeps the computers and the network working.

...almost any composition schools use was once "the top of the line" of desktops one could use. There it doesn't matter if it was labeled by Bill Gates or the bitten Apple ;)

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Then we switched to PCs, and everything got easier.

That's the purpose of Windows: anyone should be able to run it. As it sets itself automatically up, comes with automatic updates and doesn't ask for system administrator rights, normally. Yet, the question is if that makes it better. I for my part took distance from Windows due to exactly those reasons: Windows' clients are the biggest risk for viruses and hacker attacks, as they always leave backdoors open where one could get in. Windows usually doesn't ask you for a permission of sending and receiving informations, leaves ports open - and even worse - allows supporters at a certain system-configuration full access to the user's desktop. That forces you to install internet security-software like firewalls and virus scanners, in order to stuff these enormous security holes... and if you're running such software in the background - software that has to check ANY data transfer - you screw the entire performance of your operating system.

Unix systems on the other hand are different: you can perfectly define which user can do what and execute which programs. Unix systems don't do anything without your explicite permission... and that means: more security and perfect performance.

Now, I'm kind of a control freak - I don't use Windows and I don't use OSX. I run Slackware Linux, because it allows me to set an operating system up the way I want it. My Linux doesn't load any unneeded drivers and clients, like Macs and Windows-Computers do, and... it sets no limit. There's no indoctrine from Microsoft that tells me how I have to format my harddrives, or which file formats I have to use - I can open, edit and create ANY file I want... and the best part in it is: I legally don't pay a cent for it.

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it screwed them up, becasuse i TRIED to burn them, and every time immediately it said there was an error, and the disc was unusable,and after tha,t, i couldnte even erase the disc on a windows pc. I tried 3 DIFFERENT MACS! Just for the record, i am running a Intel Pentium 3, 866mhz, with 512mb PC133 SDRAM, and it runs faster than thew 1.35ghz emacs at school. MUCH faster. And i am running Windows XP Home SP1. yes, windows makes you format the hdd, but only because XP runs best on NTFS and most hdd you use from old computers has FAT32 on it.

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I swear that I could drive 120miles@25mph faster then those pieces of crap could load a webpage or a long paper.


That with the "webpage" has nothing to do with the operating system itself. It's the LAN and the internet connection that decides over the loading time.


The website may be the network, but the paper taking a minute or two to load is the computer...

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AmericanWolf_2-BP wrote:
yes, windows makes you format the hdd, but only because XP runs best on NTFS and most hdd you use from old computers has FAT32 on it.

Actually, I've reformatted my 300GB USB HD to FAT32, so that I can use it with linux (as the NTFS-System hasn't been properly cracked yet by the linux community) and still connect it to Windows systems. It runs perfectly on Win XP as a FAT32, against all recommendations and enforcements Microsoft brings towards users. Windows doesn't even allow you formatting larger HD's with FAT32... just because Bill Gates doesn't like it, apparently.

The only argument that counts regarding the entire issue, that's the fact that NTFS is a lot safer than Microsoft's older file systems... and I can understand that they format NTFS when you install a recent version of Windows... but hey... they really don't have the right to deny me formatting a different file system on a seperate HD if I want it.

It's just a fact that "Windows" is a prison in terms of computer technology, as it tells the user how he has to use a computer... I for my part prefer to tell my computer how it has to run ;)

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