View unanswered posts | View active topics
| Author |
Message |
|
(deleted user)
|
Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:47 pm |
|
|
|
Possible. In the grand scheme, it's not terribly important...he's a background, supporting character in the cartoons. It could come down to interpretation of how the telegraph operator said the name. I do remember one of the Balto tribute sites listing it as "Morris" (perhaps a play on the "Morse" name...the name of the inventor of wireless telegraphy, Samuel P. Morse), or it could just as easily be "Morse". Heh heh.
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
Highland Wolf
|
Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:50 pm |
|
|
| Living here |
 |
 |
Joined: Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:50 am Posts: 573 Location: Scotland
Gender: Female
|
BaltoSeppala wrote: Possible. In the grand scheme, it's not terribly important...he's a background, supporting character in the cartoons. It could come down to interpretation of how the telegraph operator said the name. I do remember one of the Balto tribute sites listing it as "Morris" (perhaps a play on the "Morse" name...the name of the inventor of wireless telegraphy, Samuel P. Morse), or it could just as easily be "Morse". Heh heh.
wow, you sure do know your history!
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
(deleted user)
|
Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:51 pm |
|
|
|
Highland Wolf wrote: BaltoSeppala wrote: Possible. In the grand scheme, it's not terribly important...he's a background, supporting character in the cartoons. It could come down to interpretation of how the telegraph operator said the name. I do remember one of the Balto tribute sites listing it as "Morris" (perhaps a play on the "Morse" name...the name of the inventor of wireless telegraphy, Samuel P. Morse), or it could just as easily be "Morse". Heh heh. wow, you sure do know your history!
LOL - I also happen to be a Titanic history afficinado. And the celebrated Mr. Morse comes up quite a bit in the history of those fateful few days. 
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
(deleted user)
|
Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:33 pm |
|
|
|
|
Actually, I have to own up to a partial GOOF on that historical reference. Samuel P. Morse didn't invent the WIRELESS telegraph...he did, however, introduce magnetism to electromagnetic telegraphy. And it was, really, wire telegraphy (wires strung up and suspended from networks of wooden poles).
Wikipedia's entry on Samuel Morse mentions that he did not have a valid claim to inventing electromagnetic telegraphy (in 1837) either. That he simply patented it faster. Wikipedia's entry on him refers to the fact that Morse was ignorant of the development of a successful electromagnetic telegraph by Germans Carl Friedrich Gauss and Wilhelm Eduard Weber (in Gottingen in 1833). And yet, in 1832 Morse DID develop the code, which bears his name, and which made electromagnetic telegraphy a success.
Contradictory claims in history often appear like this. It is also said that a Frenchman supposedly invented the airplane before Wilbur and Orville Wright. But claims like this are subject to exhaustive historical analysis. And since a Wikipedia entry CAN be edited by anyone (as the web site itself claims), a claim like that about Morse not inventing electromagnetic telegraphy must be taken with a grain of salt until sufficient corroboration, from reliable sources, can be obtained. So it goes to do historical research. *SIGH* LOL.
Of course, people HAVE mentioned Morse a lot with reference to the Titanic, because of the use of wireless telegraphy. And the equipment as invented by Italian electrical engineer Guglielmo Marconi, who also features prominently in the Titanic story. heh heh...that's whom I was actually thinking about. DOH!
Sorry folks...my bad.
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
Highland Wolf
|
Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:10 am |
|
|
| Living here |
 |
 |
Joined: Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:50 am Posts: 573 Location: Scotland
Gender: Female
|
BaltoSeppala wrote: Actually, I have to own up to a partial GOOF on that historical reference. Samuel P. Morse didn't invent the WIRELESS telegraph...he did, however, introduce magnetism to electromagnetic telegraphy. And it was, really, wire telegraphy (wires strung up and suspended from networks of wooden poles).
Wikipedia's entry on Samuel Morse mentions that he did not have a valid claim to inventing electromagnetic telegraphy (in 1837) either. That he simply patented it faster. Wikipedia's entry on him refers to the fact that Morse was ignorant of the development of a successful electromagnetic telegraph by Germans Carl Friedrich Gauss and Wilhelm Eduard Weber (in Gottingen in 1833). And yet, in 1832 Morse DID develop the code, which bears his name, and which made electromagnetic telegraphy a success.
Contradictory claims in history often appear like this. It is also said that a Frenchman supposedly invented the airplane before Wilbur and Orville Wright. But claims like this are subject to exhaustive historical analysis. And since a Wikipedia entry CAN be edited by anyone (as the web site itself claims), a claim like that about Morse not inventing electromagnetic telegraphy must be taken with a grain of salt until sufficient corroboration, from reliable sources, can be obtained. So it goes to do historical research. *SIGH* LOL.
Of course, people HAVE mentioned Morse a lot with reference to the Titanic, because of the use of wireless telegraphy. And the equipment as invented by Italian electrical engineer Guglielmo Marconi, who also features prominently in the Titanic story. heh heh...that's whom I was actually thinking about. DOH!
Sorry folks...my bad.
wow, i never knew that about Morse person. And about the Titanic! Did you know (well you probly do), that there were about 12 dogs on the Titanic and they said 2 servived, but actully, its a fact that 3 survived the Titanic. There were 12 dogs documented on the Titanic, and three got of in lifeboats, but somehow, refrence books ect. listed that it was only two. It was the writor of a book called White Star: A Dog on the Titanic, who found it out. She got in contact with some still-living survivors and found out that there was actully 3 dogs that survived, not 2! But still, its still really sad that only 3 servived, and 9 drowned. You may think, thats not fair on dogs! Why didn't they save them like the humans! Well, only 868 humans were saved (i think i'm correct) and 1302 all lost their lives. Tragic story really.
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
(deleted user)
|
Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:21 am |
|
|
|
Highland Wolf wrote: BaltoSeppala wrote: Actually, I have to own up to a partial GOOF on that historical reference. Samuel P. Morse didn't invent the WIRELESS telegraph...he did, however, introduce magnetism to electromagnetic telegraphy. And it was, really, wire telegraphy (wires strung up and suspended from networks of wooden poles).
Wikipedia's entry on Samuel Morse mentions that he did not have a valid claim to inventing electromagnetic telegraphy (in 1837) either. That he simply patented it faster. Wikipedia's entry on him refers to the fact that Morse was ignorant of the development of a successful electromagnetic telegraph by Germans Carl Friedrich Gauss and Wilhelm Eduard Weber (in Gottingen in 1833). And yet, in 1832 Morse DID develop the code, which bears his name, and which made electromagnetic telegraphy a success.
Contradictory claims in history often appear like this. It is also said that a Frenchman supposedly invented the airplane before Wilbur and Orville Wright. But claims like this are subject to exhaustive historical analysis. And since a Wikipedia entry CAN be edited by anyone (as the web site itself claims), a claim like that about Morse not inventing electromagnetic telegraphy must be taken with a grain of salt until sufficient corroboration, from reliable sources, can be obtained. So it goes to do historical research. *SIGH* LOL.
Of course, people HAVE mentioned Morse a lot with reference to the Titanic, because of the use of wireless telegraphy. And the equipment as invented by Italian electrical engineer Guglielmo Marconi, who also features prominently in the Titanic story. heh heh...that's whom I was actually thinking about. DOH!
Sorry folks...my bad. wow, i never knew that about Morse person. And about the Titanic! Did you know (well you probly do), that there were about 12 dogs on the Titanic and they said 2 servived, but actully, its a fact that 3 survived the Titanic. There were 12 dogs documented on the Titanic, and three got of in lifeboats, but somehow, refrence books ect. listed that it was only two. It was the writor of a book called White Star: A Dog on the Titanic, who found it out. She got in contact with some still-living survivors and found out that there was actully 3 dogs that survived, not 2! But still, its still really sad that only 3 servived, and 9 drowned. You may think, thats not fair on dogs! Why didn't they save them like the humans! Well, only 868 humans were saved (i think i'm correct) and 1302 all lost their lives. Tragic story really.
Well, that's another long discussion! Heh heh. But yes, I do know of the dogs and their fates. The harsh reality of it is that they were considered as little more than cargo, and not essential for saving in the depths of that emergency. The dogs that were saved were probably pets of first class passengers (though I don't know that conclusively). You know how that goes.
The real horror of it is that the dogs that never made it were probably locked below decks in a kennel or one of the holds. That must have been terrifying for them. *Shiver* 
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
Highland Wolf
|
Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:52 am |
|
|
| Living here |
 |
 |
Joined: Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:50 am Posts: 573 Location: Scotland
Gender: Female
|
BaltoSeppala wrote: Highland Wolf wrote: BaltoSeppala wrote: Actually, I have to own up to a partial GOOF on that historical reference. Samuel P. Morse didn't invent the WIRELESS telegraph...he did, however, introduce magnetism to electromagnetic telegraphy. And it was, really, wire telegraphy (wires strung up and suspended from networks of wooden poles).
Wikipedia's entry on Samuel Morse mentions that he did not have a valid claim to inventing electromagnetic telegraphy (in 1837) either. That he simply patented it faster. Wikipedia's entry on him refers to the fact that Morse was ignorant of the development of a successful electromagnetic telegraph by Germans Carl Friedrich Gauss and Wilhelm Eduard Weber (in Gottingen in 1833). And yet, in 1832 Morse DID develop the code, which bears his name, and which made electromagnetic telegraphy a success.
Contradictory claims in history often appear like this. It is also said that a Frenchman supposedly invented the airplane before Wilbur and Orville Wright. But claims like this are subject to exhaustive historical analysis. And since a Wikipedia entry CAN be edited by anyone (as the web site itself claims), a claim like that about Morse not inventing electromagnetic telegraphy must be taken with a grain of salt until sufficient corroboration, from reliable sources, can be obtained. So it goes to do historical research. *SIGH* LOL.
Of course, people HAVE mentioned Morse a lot with reference to the Titanic, because of the use of wireless telegraphy. And the equipment as invented by Italian electrical engineer Guglielmo Marconi, who also features prominently in the Titanic story. heh heh...that's whom I was actually thinking about. DOH!
Sorry folks...my bad. wow, i never knew that about Morse person. And about the Titanic! Did you know (well you probly do), that there were about 12 dogs on the Titanic and they said 2 servived, but actully, its a fact that 3 survived the Titanic. There were 12 dogs documented on the Titanic, and three got of in lifeboats, but somehow, refrence books ect. listed that it was only two. It was the writor of a book called White Star: A Dog on the Titanic, who found it out. She got in contact with some still-living survivors and found out that there was actully 3 dogs that survived, not 2! But still, its still really sad that only 3 servived, and 9 drowned. You may think, thats not fair on dogs! Why didn't they save them like the humans! Well, only 868 humans were saved (i think i'm correct) and 1302 all lost their lives. Tragic story really. Well, that's another long discussion! Heh heh. But yes, I do know of the dogs and their fates. The harsh reality of it is that they were considered as little more than cargo, and not essential for saving in the depths of that emergency. The dogs that were saved were probably pets of first class passengers (though I don't know that conclusively). You know how that goes. The real horror of it is that the dogs that never made it were probably locked below decks in a kennel or one of the holds. That must have been terrifying for them. *Shiver* 
yea, i know  poor dogs! it would have been terrible for them! I do find it interesting though, that there were only 12. Thats low! I do find it a bit silly though to bring your dog on a pleasure cruise, but then again, like you said, the lower class people who had their dogs in kennels, probly had to take them because knowone else could look after them i guess.
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
(deleted user)
|
Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:11 am |
|
|
|
Highland Wolf wrote: yea, i know  poor dogs! it would have been terrible for them! I do find it interesting though, that there were only 12. Thats low! I do find it a bit silly though to bring your dog on a pleasure cruise, but then again, like you said, the lower class people who had their dogs in kennels, probly had to take them because knowone else could look after them i guess.
Well, we're sorta drifing off-topic here (though, I must admit, I LOVE talking about the Titanic and its history!), but you have to remember that, for most people on the ship (save perhaps for the most wealthy), the voyage was not meant to be a "pleasure cruise", but rather a fresh start in the "new world". Many people, especially almost every third class passenger (many of whom didn't speak any English) had brought with them everything they owned (such as it was) and their entire families. The White Star Line (and its conglomerate parent company, International Mercantile Marine, owned by U.S. magnate J.P. Morgan) and its competitors knew the REAL money to be made, in trans-Atlantic travel in the early 20th century, was in low-cost ticketing and comfortable travel to the United States (through the port of New York City). The standards of third class, on the Olympic-class ships of the White Star Line (at the time, only Olympic and Titanic...as Brittanic never carried a civilian passenger...she was pulled for military troop transport and medical services during World War I) were comparable to 2nd Class accomodations on most of the smaller ships of the other lines (and of even the White Star Line).
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
Highland Wolf
|
Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:01 am |
|
|
| Living here |
 |
 |
Joined: Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:50 am Posts: 573 Location: Scotland
Gender: Female
|
BaltoSeppala wrote: Highland Wolf wrote: yea, i know  poor dogs! it would have been terrible for them! I do find it interesting though, that there were only 12. Thats low! I do find it a bit silly though to bring your dog on a pleasure cruise, but then again, like you said, the lower class people who had their dogs in kennels, probly had to take them because knowone else could look after them i guess. Well, we're sorta drifing off-topic here (though, I must admit, I LOVE talking about the Titanic and its history!), but you have to remember that, for most people on the ship (save perhaps for the most wealthy), the voyage was not meant to be a "pleasure cruise", but rather a fresh start in the "new world". Many people, especially almost every third class passenger (many of whom didn't speak any English) had brought with them everything they owned (such as it was) and their entire families. The White Star Line (and its conglomerate parent company, International Mercantile Marine, owned by U.S. magnate J.P. Morgan) and its competitors knew the REAL money to be made, in trans-Atlantic travel in the early 20th century, was in low-cost ticketing and comfortable travel to the United States (through the port of New York City). The standards of third class, on the Olympic-class ships of the White Star Line (at the time, only Olympic and Titanic...as Brittanic never carried a civilian passenger...she was pulled for military troop transport and medical services during World War I) were comparable to 2nd Class accomodations on most of the smaller ships of the other lines (and of even the White Star Line).
you sure do know a lot! And your right. And your also right that we are going of topic  maybe we should talk a little more about what we are her for! Balto! 
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
(deleted user)
|
Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:47 am |
|
|
|
tibb_wolf wrote: Holy cheesecake! You really know a ton of stuff about the real Balto. I've really enjoyed reading all of that. ^^
LOL "Holy Cheesecake". I like it, Robin! 
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
Roxas
|
Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:14 pm |
|
|
| Living here |
 |
 |
Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:24 pm Posts: 957 Location: In Your Head
Gender: Male
|
|
Well I am glad that the things they got right has more points then what they made up, though only just. And those pictures are very intresting and I am glad they made Nome look similar too wtach it actually does.
_________________ I support off the wall and original pairings, therefore I am a strong.
KodiXDusty Hater!
Got a problem with it?
Tough!
Have a nice day.
http://baltosource.timduru.org/board/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=15818 - JOIN >=D
|
|
| Top |
|
 |
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot post attachments in this forum
|
|