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 Post subject: Re: What happened to the Balto Source Mods
PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:32 pm 
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Kirada wrote:
One minute, fursonas aren't allowed. The next, they are. With such poor communication and updates, and with my being online for a week and then offline for a week, I come back completely lost.


If there is poor communication, maybe steet or Togo could create a section/topic specifically for mods, where they can check for rule updates.

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 Post subject: Re: What happened to the Balto Source Mods
PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:49 pm 
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Kirada wrote:
One minute, fursonas aren't allowed. The next, they are. With such poor communication and updates, and with my being online for a week and then offline for a week, I come back completely lost.


If there is poor communication, maybe steet or Togo could create a section/topic specifically for mods, where they can check for rule updates.

There is. Called the "Mod forum"/"External Forum"

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 Post subject: Re: What happened to the Balto Source Mods
PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:58 pm 
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I believe what Kirada means is if herself or another moderator leaves for a short while, they come back with certain things changed, and no one has contacted them. Or at least no one has made an effort to announce that. This only leads to a confused/lost moderator. Before you know it, you end up with a staff that has no idea what they are doing. Being said, this will also lead to arguments. Take the fan characters for example. Mod 1 says renders are allowed to be used. Moderator 2 says renders are not allowed. When really they are. Somehow moderator 2 ended up with wrong or outdated information. It only continues to go down in a spiral-like fashion. In order for the site and moderators to run in harmony is COMMUNICATION! If it continues to work like this, the situation will only continue to worsen. Continue to see these types of topics pop-up in the near future.Or any other site management rant. The thing is, they happen to often and they shouldn't be. My question is, why hasn't anyone even attempted to fix this situation? The rant board was put here for a reason, and for the most part no site problem has ever been solved. The problem isn't going to solve itself. It requires a little something called "effort." If this jumbled up mess is ever going to end, someone has to step-up to the plate.

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 Post subject: Re: What happened to the Balto Source Mods
PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:52 am 
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Sofiel wrote:
Lux, i change Ixxie from my fursona because i was nolonger happy with her but thank youm, also i think you stated something about not arguing with a mods dession (sorry not spelled right) however if their is a flaw in it or it does not go along with, the facts of what has and has not be activated and deactivated i feel you can, not rudely of course, but i feel you can argue your case.



Good lord, where have I been? =o

Slow response is slow.



Even though you feel you can argue with the moderators who made a decision on your account/submitted content/posts, that is still not the right way to go about and will most likely lead to such high levels of frustration on your end so that you do something that ends you up in the banned box. We've seen this time and time again (even other members watching drama in the shoutboxes); members argue with the moderators & let their anger get the best of them and usually end up warned and banned for having done something entirely unrelated to their case (such as flaming the mods or other members, knowingly involving innocent members into the discussion, throwing rude/inappropriate remarks here and there, yelling "omg I'm leaving this site it sux blah blah" only to come back a day later (though this usually won't result in warnings or bans, it makes them look ridiculous), etc. etc.).

That is why we no longer discuss moderation issues with the members affected in public (provided that it's not an issue affecting ALL of them) and that is why the members must contact the lead mod of the relevant section (only contact the site admin if you want to argue a lead mod's decision) if they want to dispute the judgement of a staff member.
The system works like this to make it a less painful experience for the members to alter a decision they feel is unfair to them. Remember that the lead moderators are not only chosen for their expertise in their fields, but also for their ability to remain impartial in their judgement. And if you still feel that the lead moderators aren't impartial, you can forward the site admin (for BS/AS: Togo) AFTER you tried the lead mods.

I would agree it's not the simplest way to go around, but it's the most pleasant one for both parties (not to mention you are much more likely to "win the case" as one might say).

Members can, however, still argue with the moderator they disagree with, BUT they shouldn't expect (expectations sometimes leads to disappointment) that moderator to change his/her decisions. But if they're not arguing like rabid monsters, there's also a very good chance that the mod might just agree with your point of view and undo what s/he did.
Do note, however, that if you get a "Take it to the lead mod" or something similar from that moderator, then that should be considered a final "I'm 100% sure that I'm right and nothing you can say will change my mind, sorry" and do exactly that - contact a lead mod. Which is why we still very much encourage members to simply contact the "top dogs" of the staff right away rather than setting themselves up for disappointment or upsetting people by raging at everything and everyone.



In response to all the other posts:

Please have a bit more patience with us. We realize we've asked you to be patient before and there's been little to no change, but we have to ask once more.
Most of today's issues are caused by lack of communication, but rest assured that we are working on it. However, having a relatively large number of staff members (to put it mildly) who all have different opinions about moderator communication (and the webmaster, Steet, who apparently doesn't see the need for an easy way of talking to the mods of all AS websites other than a semi-stable & laggy free forum - a global moderator shoutbox, maybe?) means that such a change will take time. In fact, it will take a fair bit of time.

We'll also see if we can keep you updated on the progress as we go.


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 Post subject: Re: What happened to the Balto Source Mods
PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 10:07 am 
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I understand how this whole Mod being lost with the rules thing goes but HELLO if your gone for three months would it not be a good idea to go look at the rules to see if anything has changed? :lol: You don't need a pm, when you can just check. Anyway, this is what I wanted to say:
I'll send in a pic with a render of balto and a render of like...maybe a bear from another movie and 'No-This is not a balto render' And I understand how 101 dalmations has nothing to do with a Balto fansite, but then I'll click delete, and go look at other artist gallaries and here is a flippen labrador render from 101 dalmations by a more 'popular' user. I would sooo name the certain people but I'd get framed and some stupid flame. And yes, it could be by a different mod, but then I se how there is like 20 Mods friends with this person. So....If it's a good render it's allowed, if it's a render (Not Bad) but without shading by a new user, it's not allowed. Bottem line:

One Rule Should Go For Everyone

Plus, If your to busy and your here three weeks, gone seven months reapededly, maybe you can resign from being a mod until you can stay on longer, It would be easier for everyone...

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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 4:37 am 
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Zappy's Thunder wrote:
I understand how this whole Mod being lost with the rules thing goes but HELLO if your gone for three months would it not be a good idea to go look at the rules to see if anything has changed? :lol: You don't need a pm, when you can just check.


Aren't new rules generally announced anyway? :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: What happened to the Balto Source Mods
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 4:08 pm 
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No no, I'm talking about if they come 2 weeks after it's announced and the Thing in the fannews is nolonger up.

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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:53 pm 
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Zappy's Thunder wrote:
No no, I'm talking about if they come 2 weeks after it's announced and the Thing in the fannews is nolonger up.


Well, true, everyone should keep an eye on the news for these sorts of things. But some people don't visit the news page at all :lol:

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