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I love this topic. <3

I agree with absolutely everything in the original post. While I like quite a few of the 3D films (Cars, Ice Age, Shrek, Madagascar) it IS true that a lot of them just don't...feel the same.
To me, the computer is doing the animation for you and I don't believe that anything made on a computer can have as much heart and character as something had drawn.

Disney should have stuck to Walt Disney's original idea. Make mind blowing animations with fantastic stories that everyone will love.
Like the recent one Bolt. I liked Bolt, I thought it was cute and pretty good but can anyone see it being a classic like Lion King, Bambi, Beauty & the beast, infact, most of the early 2D animated Disney films.

I don't think traditional animation will pick up again until they start actively working on making it "cool" again. Kids seem to want pretty life-like films - you CAN still give them that with 2D charcaters.
For example, look at Spirit: Stallion of the cimarron. That was essentially a 2D film BUT they used 3D animation so that it could work WITH the 2D designs.
If you look at it, the backgrounds are 2D ones, the foreground is 3D (like grass etc.) and the characters are a mix.
The scene with Spirit on the hill, as the camera pans around him it switches from 2D to 3D and you can't tell the difference.
Sadly though, even Spirit seems to have been left behind. I was rather shocked when I went looking for a Spirit fan-site and found not a single one... any I did find hadn't been updated in years and were neglected.

Plus, it's shocking that kids don't even know who Walt Disney is!

You get my feeling. I haven't seen it, but it really has nothing in its story to be considered as a "classical", there's nothing that clearly makes a difference with live-action films.


Same thing too, and I think that 3D will never achieve this. They're trying to, but no 3D gives as much feeling and emotions to the characters than 2D.


AND I agree with this again : it's all a matter of image. As long as Disney will make stupid mistakes like making a 3D show with Mickey for 3-years old, or make only DTV sequels to their animated films (even if I like them, they are no match to the original films), they will never give 2D a good image again.
I still think that maybe, the situation will stabilize and that there could be as many 2D animated films as 3D, when people will realize that they are really two different things and that 3D does not replace 2D (or the other way round)


In fact, almost all of the 2D animated films starting from the 90's included 3D effects for some scenes, and as long as it's not too noticeable, I can't see anything wrong with this - if it allows for a quicker production and reduced costs, I'm all for it.
But please, give us DRAWN characters.


That could be solved soon

"Surely they know who Walt disney is? But no,"Who's he?" "Dunno." My jaw dropped."

...Wow, it's a good thing I wasn't drinking while I read that, otherwise I wouldn't be typing this.

This is getting out of hand. Either you were sharring the theater with really stupid kids or everything I have passion for is dead.
While I love the wild and free spirit of pixar, this overproduction of CGI films is irritating the living crud out of me. I just recentley rewatched all the old Disney movies and felt a lump in my throat soon after. I began asking myself, why can't more movies have that same heart? Sure the pixar movies have this, but everything else?

Not long ago I was talking to one of my little brothers friends. She was about seven and somehow we got on the topic of cartoons. It made me so happy to hear her agree that most made today are weak compaired to the classics. She even remembered older shows like Dexter and Animaniacs. Not all hope is gone in the next generation!

THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHO WALT DISNEY IS?!?!?!?! What do their parents give them to watch?!? When I was little, all I would watch was ma Disney Videos and Don Bluth and everything. I would ALWAYS watch animated films, never live-action. And some of these CGI now- I mean, the other day I was forced to watch Space Chimps- it was rubbish compared to classic disney! And all these sequels- the other day in HMS (his masters voice, the shop) I saw the secret of NIMH 2: Timmy to the rescue.... It looked terrible! And whatever happened to the land before time? I liked the first 6 films, but after that..... if i'm correct, there are 13 now...? .... I like Pixar, and bolt, but most over things.... blech.
Hopefully Princess and the frog might turn the tables, oh, and jim henson company (owned by the disney company) are making varjak paw (WHOOT!) An amazing, award winning book. Oh, and Disney used to do loads of book adaptations (fox and the hound, jungle book, 101 dalmations etc) whatever happened to that? Hopefully the arrival of Varjak should clear that.
And now all the kids watch twilight and HSM... they've missed out. BIG TIME.

I agree totally with what steet and yourself said, ... Theres not really anything "Traditional" about it anymore, all computer stuff now..

I can't believe Mickey's going down the drain! I just told my immature grandma and she made this weird face and gasped. I don't know why I put that. The disney workers should do something about this! I spent all of my toddler-hood watching these movies! I even spent like 12 hours watching all the Star Wars movies (my mom made me)! I swear, if I ever see another person dissing Mickey, I'm going to *********** (blocked out for under-age children)