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Post subject: Re: Rabies Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:39 am |
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Conay_White_Star_Line wrote: iWolf231 wrote: There is a fic on this site about a pack of rabid dogs that attack Nome. Here's a link: http://baltosource.timduru.org/fic/Balt ... 1-177.htmlEven though it's rated "G", there are some points (I won't give anything away) that can get pretty intense. It's still a good read though. O_o Coolio, i'll read that later. G rated  I'll have to see for myself, but later though.
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Post subject: Re: Rabies Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:54 am |
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iWolf231 wrote: There is a fic on this site about a pack of rabid dogs that attack Nome. Here's a link: http://baltosource.timduru.org/fic/Balt ... 1-177.htmlEven though it's rated "G", there are some points (I won't give anything away) that can get pretty intense. It's still a good read though. I first read it a month ago,but is a very interesting story.
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Post subject: Re: Rabies Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:42 am |
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Thanks for posting this topic, Joker! It might be a little over the top for some (there were some technical terms in there that a several people may not understand) but it is very well-written and informative! Hope you don't mind me adding my own knowledge in, as a college student majoring in Pre-Veterinary Medicine. We just studied a little on rabies last semester.
There's really no need to worry about rabies as long as you get your animals vaccinated, especially if you live in wooded areas. Skunks are the most common carriers (and the most common animals to transmit the virus to dogs and cats.) I know in my state (Kentucky) all pet owners are required by law to have their animals vaccinated for rabies (and this usually includes rabbits, rats, ferrets, mice, etc. I don't believe birds and reptiles are required to be vaccinated however, simply due to their fragile nature and caged life.) If you believe your pet may have come in contact with a rabies infected animal, monitor them closely and watch for ANY behavioral change, not just aggression. There are two forms of rabies, the aggressive form that most people know about and the dumb form.
If you domesticate and raise wild animals (like squirrels) as I know some people do, you need to remember to keep them inside and away from possibly infected individuals. It is illegal for a Veterinarian to administer the rabies vaccine in-clinic to wild animals, even if these animals have been domesticated. Domestication isn't the issue... The issue is that the pet vaccine was not tested on wild animal populations like it was for pet animals. Although it will pretty much do the same thing and work the same way, because the testing has not been done and there are no clinical trials to back it up, the FDA prohibits its use on wild animals. Though there is a vaccine that has been tested on wild animals and is often used to try vaccinate wild populations in order to keep the virus in check, most Veterinarians do not keep it in stock.
Also, unless you're planning on handling and/or dealing very closely wild animals or working in Veterinary medicine (like me) it's not necessary to have yourself vaccinated for rabies. Just minimize your chances of coming upon infected animals by reporting any unusual animal presence to Animal Control and don't try to get rid of it yourself!
Rabies isn't as common in the U.S. today due to the fact that vaccination is usually mandated in pet populations and every so often wild populations of animals (like wolves in Alaska) are vaccinated. However, this doesn't mean that you should stop vaccinating your pets! In order to keep the virus from resurfacing, it's important to continue vaccinating.
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Post subject: Re: Rabies Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:14 pm |
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Aniu Caelestis wrote: Thanks for posting this topic, Joker! It might be a little over the top for some (there were some technical terms in there that a several people may not understand) but it is very well-written and informative! Hope you don't mind me adding my own knowledge in, as a college student majoring in Pre-Veterinary Medicine. We just studied a little on rabies last semester.
There's really no need to worry about rabies as long as you get your animals vaccinated, especially if you live in wooded areas. Skunks are the most common carriers (and the most common animals to transmit the virus to dogs and cats.) I know in my state (Kentucky) all pet owners are required by law to have their animals vaccinated for rabies (and this usually includes rabbits, rats, ferrets, mice, etc. I don't believe birds and reptiles are required to be vaccinated however, simply due to their fragile nature and caged life.) If you believe your pet may have come in contact with a rabies infected animal, monitor them closely and watch for ANY behavioral change, not just aggression. There are two forms of rabies, the aggressive form that most people know about and the dumb form.
If you domesticate and raise wild animals (like squirrels) as I know some people do, you need to remember to keep them inside and away from possibly infected individuals. It is illegal for a Veterinarian to administer the rabies vaccine in-clinic to wild animals, even if these animals have been domesticated. Domestication isn't the issue... The issue is that the pet vaccine was not tested on wild animal populations like it was for pet animals. Although it will pretty much do the same thing and work the same way, because the testing has not been done and there are no clinical trials to back it up, the FDA prohibits its use on wild animals. Though there is a vaccine that has been tested on wild animals and is often used to try vaccinate wild populations in order to keep the virus in check, most Veterinarians do not keep it in stock.
Also, unless you're planning on handling and/or dealing very closely wild animals or working in Veterinary medicine (like me) it's not necessary to have yourself vaccinated for rabies. Just minimize your chances of coming upon infected animals by reporting any unusual animal presence to Animal Control and don't try to get rid of it yourself!
Rabies isn't as common in the U.S. today due to the fact that vaccination is usually mandated in pet populations and every so often wild populations of animals (like wolves in Alaska) are vaccinated. However, this doesn't mean that you should stop vaccinating your pets! In order to keep the virus from resurfacing, it's important to continue vaccinating. your welcome and thank you for adding this info.It actually works on "stages" when in dogs.they are prodome:the dog acts unusual such as lack of desire to eat along with possible headache and fever furious:the dog become hyperactive and hysteric,leading to them wanting to bite you.(it's why I stay near something that I can defend myself with) paralyic:the infected stats to show signs of paralyis.Most die from respiratory arrest. Remember people,wolves only get infected with rabies from rabies because of another species.By the way,like I said if I have to kill an animal that is rabid,I will. Foxy Aleu wrote: I'm not certain if anyone has mentioned this,but an old word for rabies is hydrophobia. Yeah,that's because in the later stages in humans who are infected,they have difficulty swallowing and they panic at the sight of a drink since they can't quench their thirst. I_am_Balto wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHA U GGOT RABIES! How about you take this seriously?
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Post subject: Re: Rabies Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:59 pm |
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Actuelly, birds and lizards aren't required to get vacinated because they're immune, only mammals can get Rabies, I'm not exactly sure why.
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Post subject: Re: Rabies Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:40 am |
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Godzillawolf wrote: Actuelly, birds and lizards aren't required to get vacinated because they're immune, only mammals can get Rabies, I'm not exactly sure why. Well, certain diseases only affect certain animals. For example, the canine parvovirus is exclusive to dogs and doesn't affect humans at all.
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Post subject: Re: Rabies Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:43 pm |
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iWolf231 wrote: Godzillawolf wrote: Actuelly, birds and lizards aren't required to get vacinated because they're immune, only mammals can get Rabies, I'm not exactly sure why. Well, certain diseases only affect certain animals. For example, the canine parvovirus is exclusive to dogs and doesn't affect humans at all. I agree so.
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Post subject: Re: Rabies Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:07 pm |
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iWolf231 wrote: Godzillawolf wrote: Actuelly, birds and lizards aren't required to get vacinated because they're immune, only mammals can get Rabies, I'm not exactly sure why. Well, certain diseases only affect certain animals. For example, the canine parvovirus is exclusive to dogs and doesn't affect humans at all. This is true. Canine Parvovirus (which is related and similar to Coronavirus) cannot be contracted by humans. Some other "fun facts" about Parvo include: -Vomit and diarrhea from an infected dog is HIGHLY contagious to other dogs, especially if they have not been vaccinated for Parvovirus -Bleach is the best common cleaning agent that will "kill" most infectious viruses -The theory about its origin is that it mutated from Feline Panleukopenia because the symptoms are virtually the same. Parvovirus literally popped out of nowhere in 1977, and before anyone had studied it, they used the Panleukopenia vaccination to prevent it. Parvovirus wasn't identified for what it was until the 80's. -Like ALL viruses, there is nothing you can give to "cure" it. -Most Parvo infected dogs die from dehydration or other, minor diseases (like a cold or flu) because all viruses tax the immune system. -The best thing to do for a Parvo infected dog is to make sure it stays hydrated (usually via IV, but you should let your Vet do this if you don't know how) and treat any other symptomatic problems. Give antibiotics if needed to control bacterial infections. -Rottweilers have NO natural immunity to Parvo (and they do not pass immunity on to their offspring). Dobermans are the second worst when it comes to natural immunity. Thus, they should be vaccinated early (do as your Vet recommends). -Most dogs only get Parvo before they turn 1 year old, however, any dog can be susceptible if they are not vaccinated. -A dog's chances of surviving Parvo skyrocket if they can make it through 3 days. -Always, always, always go to your Vet for advice! They really DO want to help you and your animal friends! Hmm, should I start making topics with what I'm learning about more common diseases, to help you guys out? I will, if anyone is interested. I know many people are concerned about things like Parvo and Rabies, and knowledge is always a good thing.
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Post subject: Re: Rabies Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:02 am |
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Aniu Caelestis wrote: iWolf231 wrote: Godzillawolf wrote: Actuelly, birds and lizards aren't required to get vacinated because they're immune, only mammals can get Rabies, I'm not exactly sure why. Well, certain diseases only affect certain animals. For example, the canine parvovirus is exclusive to dogs and doesn't affect humans at all. This is true. Canine Parvovirus (which is related and similar to Coronavirus) cannot be contracted by humans. Some other "fun facts" about Parvo include: -Vomit and diarrhea from an infected dog is HIGHLY contagious to other dogs, especially if they have not been vaccinated for Parvovirus -Bleach is the best common cleaning agent that will "kill" most infectious viruses -The theory about its origin is that it mutated from Feline Panleukopenia because the symptoms are virtually the same. Parvovirus literally popped out of nowhere in 1977, and before anyone had studied it, they used the Panleukopenia vaccination to prevent it. Parvovirus wasn't identified for what it was until the 80's. -Like ALL viruses, there is nothing you can give to "cure" it. -Most Parvo infected dogs die from dehydration or other, minor diseases (like a cold or flu) because all viruses tax the immune system. -The best thing to do for a Parvo infected dog is to make sure it stays hydrated (usually via IV, but you should let your Vet do this if you don't know how) and treat any other symptomatic problems. Give antibiotics if needed to control bacterial infections. -Rottweilers have NO natural immunity to Parvo (and they do not pass immunity on to their offspring). Dobermans are the second worst when it comes to natural immunity. Thus, they should be vaccinated early (do as your Vet recommends). -Most dogs only get Parvo before they turn 1 year old, however, any dog can be susceptible if they are not vaccinated. -A dog's chances of surviving Parvo skyrocket if they can make it through 3 days. -Always, always, always go to your Vet for advice! They really DO want to help you and your animal friends! Hmm, should I start making topics with what I'm learning about more common diseases, to help you guys out? I will, if anyone is interested. I know many people are concerned about things like Parvo and Rabies, and knowledge is always a good thing. Yes, I want to be aware, when I have a new cat or dog at the time being.
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Post subject: Re: Rabies Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:44 pm |
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Aniu Caelestis wrote: iWolf231 wrote: Godzillawolf wrote: Actuelly, birds and lizards aren't required to get vacinated because they're immune, only mammals can get Rabies, I'm not exactly sure why. Well, certain diseases only affect certain animals. For example, the canine parvovirus is exclusive to dogs and doesn't affect humans at all. This is true. Canine Parvovirus (which is related and similar to Coronavirus) cannot be contracted by humans. Some other "fun facts" about Parvo include: -Vomit and diarrhea from an infected dog is HIGHLY contagious to other dogs, especially if they have not been vaccinated for Parvovirus -Bleach is the best common cleaning agent that will "kill" most infectious viruses -The theory about its origin is that it mutated from Feline Panleukopenia because the symptoms are virtually the same. Parvovirus literally popped out of nowhere in 1977, and before anyone had studied it, they used the Panleukopenia vaccination to prevent it. Parvovirus wasn't identified for what it was until the 80's. -Like ALL viruses, there is nothing you can give to "cure" it. -Most Parvo infected dogs die from dehydration or other, minor diseases (like a cold or flu) because all viruses tax the immune system. -The best thing to do for a Parvo infected dog is to make sure it stays hydrated (usually via IV, but you should let your Vet do this if you don't know how) and treat any other symptomatic problems. Give antibiotics if needed to control bacterial infections. -Rottweilers have NO natural immunity to Parvo (and they do not pass immunity on to their offspring). Dobermans are the second worst when it comes to natural immunity. Thus, they should be vaccinated early (do as your Vet recommends). -Most dogs only get Parvo before they turn 1 year old, however, any dog can be susceptible if they are not vaccinated. -A dog's chances of surviving Parvo skyrocket if they can make it through 3 days. -Always, always, always go to your Vet for advice! They really DO want to help you and your animal friends! Hmm, should I start making topics with what I'm learning about more common diseases, to help you guys out? I will, if anyone is interested. I know many people are concerned about things like Parvo and Rabies, and knowledge is always a good thing. Sure,I'll help you out if you want me to
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Post subject: Re: Rabies Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:42 am |
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Wow, excellent research here, Joker! You too, Aniu! It's good that you posted this. At first I didn't want to read it because it was so long, but I started reading and found it quite interesting. I'm glad Australia is a [almost] rabies-free country. This topic shows a lot of research and effort, and you should be proud of it. Good job! 
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Post subject: Re: Rabies Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:53 pm |
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VividLegacy wrote: Wow, excellent research here, Joker! You too, Aniu! It's good that you posted this. At first I didn't want to read it because it was so long, but I started reading and found it quite interesting. I'm glad Australia is a [almost] rabies-free country. This topic shows a lot of research and effort, and you should be proud of it. Good job!  Thank you so much and I am proud of my work when people appreciate it. 
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Post subject: Re: Rabies Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:22 pm |
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VividLegacy wrote: Wow, excellent research here, Joker! You too, Aniu! It's good that you posted this. At first I didn't want to read it because it was so long, but I started reading and found it quite interesting. I'm glad Australia is a [almost] rabies-free country. This topic shows a lot of research and effort, and you should be proud of it. Good job!  *Sighs* You're lucky, to my knowladge nothing bad ever happens in Austrailia. Anyway, I don't think humans will ever 'win the war' against viruses until the end of time, no matter how hard we try. But we can make it a lot better.
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Post subject: Re: Rabies Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:39 pm |
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*bump* This is a good topic. I don't think it needs to be buried just yet.
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