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Should deviant-sexual fanfics be banned totally?
Yes 42%  42%  [ 22 ]
No 52%  52%  [ 27 ]
I have no opinion 6%  6%  [ 3 ]
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 Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion
PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:02 pm 
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Ultima Wolflux wrote:
I'm a huge fan of writing freedom, however this content has no place on BaltoSource. Yet I voted "No", because I believe that while most of it could be banned, we could induce some VERY strict rules on what could be allowed (which would, for instance, be fictions revolving around controversial romance).

a little romance is ok, but i think steet is talking about the more graphic ones that go into a little bit too much to even be on a kid-friendly website. that's just the way i see, someone correct me if im wrong.

G'reth--> or they could ask older siblings/friends at school, which is more likely in my opinion. but if they did happen to ask parents, thier parents may ban them from being on the site when they find out where thier 9 or 10 year old learned some "big kid things".

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 Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion
PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:07 pm 
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I'm a huge fan of writing freedom, however this content has no place on BaltoSource. Yet I voted "No", because I believe that while most of it could be banned, we could induce some VERY strict rules on what could be allowed (which would, for instance, be fictions revolving around controversial romance).

a little romance is ok, but i think steet is talking about the more graphic ones that go into a little bit too much to even be on a kid-friendly website. that's just the way i see, someone correct me if im wrong.


Yeah, you may be right on this one. However, I have only seen one really graphic fanfiction (Buried Secrets by CatWhoHas14Tails). Some fictions that are slightly deviant-sexual - like Rotramel's fiction A Forbidden Love - are very well-written and actually adds to the Balto universe.

I believe discussing controversial subjects to be healthy, as it allows the viewpoints of others to come to light, and we can all educate one another.
These fanfics are also under this controversie (sp?).


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 Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion
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Ultima Wolflux wrote:
I'm a huge fan of writing freedom, however this content has no place on BaltoSource. Yet I voted "No", because I believe that while most of it could be banned, we could induce some VERY strict rules on what could be allowed (which would, for instance, be fictions revolving around controversial romance).

a little romance is ok, but i think steet is talking about the more graphic ones that go into a little bit too much to even be on a kid-friendly website. that's just the way i see, someone correct me if im wrong.

G'reth--> or they could ask older siblings/friends at school, which is more likely in my opinion. but if they did happen to ask parents, thier parents may ban them from being on the site when they find out where thier 9 or 10 year old learned some "big kid things".


I know but is it fair to them to be banned because of inaproporiate stuff on a site aobut a kid's movie?


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 Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion
PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:22 pm 
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Ultima Wolflux wrote:
I'm a huge fan of writing freedom, however this content has no place on BaltoSource. Yet I voted "No", because I believe that while most of it could be banned, we could induce some VERY strict rules on what could be allowed (which would, for instance, be fictions revolving around controversial romance).

a little romance is ok, but i think steet is talking about the more graphic ones that go into a little bit too much to even be on a kid-friendly website. that's just the way i see, someone correct me if im wrong.

G'reth--> or they could ask older siblings/friends at school, which is more likely in my opinion. but if they did happen to ask parents, thier parents may ban them from being on the site when they find out where thier 9 or 10 year old learned some "big kid things".


I know but is it fair to them to be banned because of inaproporiate stuff on a site aobut a kid's movie?

heh, i have many friends that have been in the situation (more things relating to myspace though) i doubt thier parents would care, they just don't want to expose thier younger children to more advanced knowledge. anything possibly having any sexual content, they don't seem to care for. :?

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 Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion
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I'm a huge fan of writing freedom, however this content has no place on BaltoSource. Yet I voted "No", because I believe that while most of it could be banned, we could induce some VERY strict rules on what could be allowed (which would, for instance, be fictions revolving around controversial romance).

a little romance is ok, but i think steet is talking about the more graphic ones that go into a little bit too much to even be on a kid-friendly website. that's just the way i see, someone correct me if im wrong.


Yeah, you may be right on this one. However, I have only seen one really graphic fanfiction (Buried Secrets by CatWhoHas14Tails). Some fictions that are slightly deviant-sexual - like Rotramel's fiction A Forbidden Love - are very well-written and actually adds to the Balto universe.

I believe discussing controversial subjects to be healthy, as it allows the viewpoints of others to come to light, and we can all educate one another.
These fanfics are also under this controversie (sp?).

yes, such as cat's which i acually enjoyed, but it still isn't for younger members, we must take that into consideration as well. they do ge curious and may as well look up some innappropriate terms, use them and get into trouble with thier parentals. we don't want baltosource getting that type of publicity, do we? becuase perhaps the kid had a friend who liked balto too. now the kid's parents will tell the friend's parents about "how innapropriate" the site is. we ARE trying to get more members and things such as what i stated above isn't exactly the best way to do so. :?

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 Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion
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Ahhh...interesting well they should not, as long as these fics don't describe, sexual movements, sexual parts, or most of the story to be "lusty" its fine for me, so please stop such drama, in the ratins PG-13 is meant for a fic that can contain this (sexual themes, viloence, swearing and cursin with inapropiate words etc), if everyone wanted their fics to be kid-friendly, a PG-13 woudln't exist. I vote no, as much as I'm against certain themes, lets not make the site to conservative, but neither with much liberalism, lets keep things as they are now, it's perfectly fine for me.

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 Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion
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I say yes, this is a family-friendly site for god's sake! get that through your thick skulls!!

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Yet I voted "No", because I believe that while most of it could be banned, we could induce some VERY strict rules on what could be allowed (which would, for instance, be fictions revolving around controversial romance).

And how precisely would you rewrite the rules, then? I think they are already very strict, but I may be wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:23 am 
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I am dead-set against these things, and am entirely resolved to fight them to my dying breath if need be. I know of at least two members whose parents have made them leave the site because this kind of stuff was allowed. If we have a site where kids aren't allowed to come, we've basically doomed this memorial to the Balto / Lion King films to extinction. Both series were made for kids. How can any site which alienates them so call itself a tribute to them? That's like a McDonalds with an adults-only playground.

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Some fictions that are slightly deviant-sexual - like Rotramel's fiction A Forbidden Love - are very well-written and actually adds to the Balto universe.

Yes, but at what cost? It's due to the precedent of Rotramel's writing that other fics, which are poorly written and by authors who care nothing for the Balto universe, have been permitted. For instance, I have seen one writer (whom I will kindly leave nameless) write Balto into an incestuous affair. The fic was, by any objective standard of writing quality, pure pap and dreck. Unskilled writing, no thought of the characters, and a plot that wouldn't challenge a third-grader (though it would do much to pollute their minds). And I have even seen Rotramel's fics, by name, used by other members to say that incest is OK in the real world. This can't be tolerated on a site where kids are encouraged to roam.
I have great respect for Rotramel, both as a writer and as a person. I've even alluded to one of his more acceptable stories in my own work. But these things have to hit the road.

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I don't think that deviant-sexual fan fics should be banned, unless it had graphic mating/sex, gay or ****** in it, or incest in it. Kissing/cuddling/hugging/non-graphic mating would be alright though. That's all I have to say for now, I'll try to think of a longer post.

Graphic mating is already prohibited, which actually has everything to do with why I joined the site to begin with. As for the other things you listed in that sentence, those are what are meant by "Deviant sexual content." Homosexuality, incest, zoophilia (relations between humans and animals, which is illegal in nearly every country on the planet and medically proven to have a high fatality rate for those who do it), and certain other things I'll forgo mentioning for the sake of people's stomachs are what this site classifies as deviant sexual content.
As for kissing/hugging/non-graphic mating, these are just fine. I have always had the utmost commitment to clean content in writing, and you will find the first two (well, not so much hugging since they are dogs) in several of my own fics, and mating is implied since Toby and Luna are parents.

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 Post subject: Re: Deviant-sexual fanfics again : your opinion
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It's a kids site. They shouldnt be allowed full stop. Kids dont want to see that kind of stuff, chances are they wont even understand it! And then a kid goes to his parent and says...
Now what'ts the parent gonna think! This site is for kids to be free from stuff like this, not to see it.

Exactly my point. It's the parents' job to decide when their kid is ready to hear about this stuff, and we have no right to rush that.

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I say that this kind of thing should be banned. becasue both Balto and Lion King where based on either a true story or just made for kids and this site was Made for kids therefore meaning that sexual fan-fics should not be allowed beacause some people are saying
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It's the parents' job to decide is the child is able to read the fan-fics
but let me point out that not all children care about what there partents say some of them can't have a myspace for various reasons but they go and make one anyway. So really even if Steet does allow them but someone's Child won't Listen the outcome of this will be Children of a certian age reading a Sexual Fan-Fic. Also what if a partent finds out the worst thing that could happen is the child having to leave the site.

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i posted my vote as a yes for banning those fanfics the fact that JC, Ghost-Unit and Kelev all have very good reasons and what they've stated i'm on them on that 100%. This is a kids website like geez you don't see Simba and Nala doing the "you-know-what" and same with Balto and Jenna. Like sure the flirt in the film/fic here or there but detailed and a main factor of the fic ye... i would ban it.


and others who are with banning this.. i agree with you too :)

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