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Well, knowing that Balto and wolves are rather closely related in their subject matter (like the fact that Balto is half wolf, and Balto 2 deals with wolf heritage), I personally think that's what one should expect from a site like this. So I personally think that some people who don't like wolves but join this site because they like Balto or TLK should just watch their tongue when they're speaking. I mean, I've heard some people say they don't like wolves that much, and that's fine with me, but those who hate wolves with a passion should seriously watch their words.

Togo, no one said the members are hated...we just suggest they watch their words. The site may have BEGAN as a videogame site...but it's not anymore; It's a Balto-focused site. Balto is a WOLFdog; therefore, the majority of the members on this site love (or at least respect) wolves, and we don't want to hear how much some peolple want to kill them.

Are we wrong for feeling this way?

I certainly don't blame anyone for feeling that way.

I mean, it's like this: Angels & Airwaves (AVA for short) is my favorite band, that was formed from the lead singer from blink-182, and some other members from other bands. However, I'm aware that a lot of people can't stand AVA because they don't like their style of music, and they don't understand why the lead singer didn't do music like blink-182 (punk rock style), and their nostalgia for blink-182. I wouldn't go around joining a blink-182 fansite, because I'd probably hear a lot of AVA bashing, and I really don't want to hear, or care to hear any of that. If I did join it, I'd just not say anything about AVA, and keep to talking about blink-182.

I hate to go off topic, but I wanted to give an example of how this can apply elsewhere.

1. I didn't say this isn't a B/TLK site, and I didn't say I had seen 'this site is dedicated to wolves in general'. I said it had become a custom; the whole idea of a custom is that it isn't written down. A custom appears from general practice. So my point still stands: although all the sections, official releases etc... of the site focus on the B/TLK aspect, the site is in practice (so you won't read this anywhere in the official statutes, duh!) also a wolf-fan site.
2. Alas, since the pro-wolf attitude of the site is only a custom and not an official rule, it means you have some point though: you do indeed have the right to "open a topic in the animals section which asks the best way to hunt wolves". But you'll have to learn to live with the fact that you'll take a lot a flak from that, and that a lot of people will want you to shut up. But you will be allowed to say what you want to say (although you might attract some more scrutiny than the average member); mods will not ban you for saying those things.
Similarly, I think republicans who stay eloquent and reasonable will not get banned on that red forum you mentioned just because they are republican. But they will get some bad vibes, and a lot of people will want those republicans to shut up, and will voice that opinion.
So yes, I think it is perfectly natural to want communism haters to shut up even if the site in question is not leftist. Because there is a difference between wanting something and making it happen: if you get banned for being a right wing nut (without a rule that states you can't be right wing), I think that's wrong. But there is a difference between wanting someone to shut their mouth (and starting a topic on it or the likes) and actually banning them.

Might I please inquire as to why you're into this barbaric obbsession?

Please understand my curiosity, and don't answer with "well, wolves..." and then trail off. Is there a reason why you like to kill wolves? Were you attacked as a child? Do they constantly pick off your livestock? Is it a macho thing?

I'm just confused at the thought of unnessesary slaughter. Elaborate, if you will....

Kodi13 wrote:

Not if they have a hunting license to hunt wolves :/



Exactly my point. I say it's fine to join the site even if your not a great fan of wolves nbut like Balto or TLK. But say if you joined TLK sourse but hated wolves, how would other members feel if you shouted out somthing like "I hate wolves and I'm gonna get a hunting license to shoot them all and you all can't stop me " You are not going to be popular among members, so even if you are gonna hunt animals keep it to yourself :/

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StrawberrySplash Wrote:


Rolla_wolf9

Err.. Did you read Canis Lupus's post? It's SS's own decision whether they want to hunt wolves, and you shoulnd't question that. We don't want a flame war here >.>

hopefully in the future it will become totally illegal to hunt and other methods will be used to keep pest animals away from farms etc.
for example Shaun Ellis is experimenting with using recorded wolf howls to keep wolves away from farms. The results are positive so far, if research is done I am sure that other species can be deterred using non-kill methods.

Some people will still hunt of course, and I will be very happy to hear that they are in jail.

Sheba

I think fully that this site is definetly for people who love both wolves and Balto plus lions. I also think that people should keep their own opinions to themselves about their hates in front of people who don't feel the same way at all! And They should join a different site for their interest instead of joining a site that is the opposite from their interest and bring out their bad ideas.

Yes, and then again no. For what concerns the console vs. PC, I'd say that the debate isn't polarized enough to actually speak of a pro-console custom (as pro-console doesn't rule out pro-PC); such custom would be rather empty as it stands for nothing. But if such custom existed, you should note that it is one limited to the video-game section, whereas the pro-wolf custom extends over the entire site. Maybe there are other customs across the entire site; I honestly don't know. You have to look at this on a case-by-case basis; generalizing is bad idea/argument.

Little nuance here: if they have a (customary) rule forbidding republican opinions, they have the right to ban even the politest of republicans; a forum is a private space. If the owner wants to curb freedom of speech, he can rightfully do so.
Off topic also: I should really remind everyone that freedom of speech legally isn't an absolute right, and it shouldn't be.

But in conclusion: until a new rule surfaces, or a consensus grows among the mods to forbid it, pro hunting topics are still allowed and will continue to surface every now and then. But anyone who doesn't like that is equally free to voice their opinions in a civilized manner.

*cough* Togo, Cogitor; you are all going waaay off-topic now. Please return to the subject that is discussed here.
I know that you two can argument with "We are still on the topic", but this is a rant about people joining this website who hates wolves (which, I agree, is strange, because Balto is half-wolf). Surely, this website has a wolf-custom, however, people choose what they are a fan of. Many people come here for TLK only too.

Anyhow; you are all entitled your own opinions, but if you hate wolves (or canines in general, for that matter) you've come to the wrong website, and screaming "I hate wolves!111!11!oneeleven"(exaggerated) in every single post (*cough cough*) is asking for flames. Then again; this website is for both TLK and Balto fans; which divides us in to two groups (i.e Cat-enthusiasts and Wolf-enthusiasts), but there are also some of us (this is true, sadly) who come here only to chat in the More section, with absolutely no interest in Balto or TLK whatsoever.

Anyhow; this website consists mainly of wolf-enthusiasts, and that's the way it has become. I suggest we all adapt to that, and try not to argue too much about it. However; adapting does not necessarily mean that you need to become a Wolf-enthusiast to "fit in". What I mean by adapting is that you learn to respect it, that you could always learn something about it, and particapate in discussions, etc.
Who knows? Maybe you'll find it fun

Anyway; let's go back into topic, okay?

Now that's a step too far. "Barbaric obbsession"? Some people would say that loving wolves is a "barbaric obbsession". Strawberry Splash has her reasons, and if she doesn't want to elaborate that much, she just doesn't, and you have to accept that and her choice to hunt them.

The general problem here is that Balto is about a husky/wolf hybrid, and naturally such a site for Balto would attract wolf lovers. If someone strolls in saying they don't like wolves and they're going to hunt wolves, of course the lovers are going to load their flaming cannons and shoot! The whole idea of liking such a thing is to defend it from harm somehow! People need to start accepting the fact that there are people in the world who are going to dislike wolves and maybe start hunting them! Otherwise, this will all degrade into a giant ball of flames and hatey, and we don't want that, do we? I personally have no problem with Splash's decision to hunt wolves, if she wants to, she can go ahead and do it. But this is all ridiculous. You shouldn't hate someone for hating something else. (Apologies for going off-topic here) It's the same with the Aleu haters! The lovers automatically go nuts about them and try to attack them! People need to calm down and learn to take things from another's point of view. Try it, it really helps with this sort of thing.

Another thing. I'm not saying Splash is completely innocent here. Sure, she should try and watch what she says about the whole thing. But we don't need to cause such a rumpus over one tiny decision. That would be wasting valuable time, no? We already only have a short period of time on here to cram into our lives, so why waste it fighting over such a thing?