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I think it's rather stupid. I'm light Goth but don't really spread it around, but for the people I do reveal it to most of the time they assume I worship Satan. Which I don't, I'm actually Christian, but people don't think about that, do they?

Oh and @Dragon Tamer: please try and take a NPOV on this, I know beliefs are going to affect what you say, but just... try or something.

Dragon Tamer, I'm afraid the American Psychological Association, the United States Surgeon General and the majority of the scientific community (not the media) would disagree with you on all accounts, so I won't wast my time trying to refute those silly statements you made; no use in trying to disprove that which is so clearly wrong.

That aside, to get back to the topic at hand:
It might be a good idea to, at this point, define 'goth'. Most of the so called judging might actually be a case of false perception.
So here's one for all the goths: what makes someone goth? Is it the clothing? Or the music? Or the taste in literature? Or all of those combined?
If I had some clarity on those, I might just be less inclined to be judgmental, 'cause now I've still got the impression that being goth has a lot to do with burning candles and wearing crosses upside down. What is it about, really?

I always make a habit of having ammunition handy, Cogitor, and this is no exception. I've been reading a book on the subject recently, and it turns out the American Psychological Association classified homosexuality as a psychological disorder until a group of gay-rights activists stormed one of their meetings and, in their own words, declared war on the APA if they would not de-classify homosexuality as a disorder. Moreover, I defy you to find any legitimate research which contradicts me. Many experiments and studies have been done which (on the surface) back you up, but an in-depth examination of the study methods used shows that they fialed to meet even bare minimum standards of the scientific method. Nevertheless, we are getting off-topic. If you wish to continue this via PM, I will oblige.



I've often wondered that myself, although I'm pretty sure burning candles and wearing crosses upside-down has to do more with Devil worship, which does (if I'm not mistaken) sometimes overlap with Goth-style dress and behavior.

To Cobalt: I favor taking an IPOV (Informed Point of View). Nonetheless, I shall try not to ruffle too many feathers while I'm here.

people are people. in my opinion everybody has their own attitude and their own style... many people have problems with the personality of many people and place them into little groups. ex: goths. just cause' they wear black, doesn't mean they are like.... ugh.

You're right that people have varying styles. Of course, some things cross the line from style and go into other fields.

Look, I really don't like where this is going. In fact, some people here are being just the types this person is ranting about. Both issues brought up here shouldn't have been brought up in the first place. Talks about religion are allowed, but only given that it is not militant and it is not starting flame wars or hating on other religions. Talks about gender preference are not allowed, because nine out of ten times, it causes a flame war.

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