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Since religion is in a way science-fiction, it is no suprise science-fiction eventually made the leap to religion...
By the way, if you think people following Jedi-religion is weird, try and remember that the inventor of the mucho popular 'religion' Scientology was... a science-fiction writer.


Since when is religion science fiction? The key point of religion is stuff that has nothing to do with science. And Amani Werewolf, I agree that flame wars are a bad thing. But might I point out that debate (controlled, of course) is the best way to learn about something?

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Well do you think the Shao Lin monks are evil? You can call them the Jedi of the world. They have:
-fight training
-they get physical power


Just to address these particular points, since I missed it earlier. I have nothing against combat practice. I engage in it myself on the rare occasions when I have the chance. I take great pride in my fighting skills and physical ability, but I try not to use them to hurt people if I can help it. I regard them as gifts which were given to me, and also as priveleges which can be revoked if I misuse them. As Job pointed out, what God gives, he can also take away. Another bonus of fighting skill is that, when I write my books (real books, not stuff on this site) and have characters fighting, I have something to draw on. As for physical power, I notice you cited TV. It's all special effects. But many followers of faith either had or didn't need physical power. Look at Samson or David.

BTW, the Jedi do suppress certain positive emotions, like love (eros, to be precise). Admittedly, romantic attraction can be hazardous if it's not correctly handled (and I should know), but again, it's like any other emotion.

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No, they don't. They shall not feel them cause it affects the abillity to decide for the better thing.

If you love someone, and she would be in trobule, together with someone else whos life would be way more important (maybe for the total victory in a war or whatsoever) Woh would you choose? I guess the one you love. And then? What will you do then?

This is just one example of many many others.

I do not block all feelings (cause i don't want to save the world :P), but I do think about what will be better...

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They do supress them. I've read several of the Star Wars books, and anyone can plainly see from the way the characters' thought processes are described that they often ignore their emotions. If you want a sane way to balance war and emotions, use the system the Romans had. They trained their soldiers to utilize their emotions at certain times in certain circumstances in order to be as productive as possible. Where are you from, the planet Vulcan? You talk logically, but I doubt you'd be so quick to back it up if you had to.

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Who hasn't read Star Wars books? But these books are not made by G.L. himself, so they can drift away from what it really means.
Real Jedis do not supress them, they do not let them control it. The Jedi code is nothing more than soemthing how Jedi shall act if they have to decide something.

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I'm suprised this has gotten by so far. And you two bickering doesn't help either.

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Personally, I think having an offical "Jedi Religion" is dumb. It sounds like it was a joke gone way to far.

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There is no emotion; there is peace.

Who would want to live without emotion? It's just.. no. I don't think they should have made this a religion in the least.

And don't try and flame me for thinking my opinions are 'dumb' because I won't care.

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