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angryunicorn · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2005 10:41 am **Posts:** 3023

Martinthewarrior wrote:

I agree with baltoseppala...sort of...

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theWOLFMAN (LCA) (6 h) : But I can show you what my tonque can do, if you just give me a chance

theWOLFMAN (LCA) (6 h) : LOL, it's Swedish and means 'hello'

theWOLFMAN (LCA) (6 h) : Hejsan?

Diesel (LCA) (6 h) : Yeh a bit further down you spoke in tongues - what did you say

This kind of behavior on the sb is unacceptable, last I checked this is a Balto site and last I checked, Balto is a kids movie, which means that BS has to have some kids on here and not talking about sexual or other inappropiate things should be strictly enforced...you don't know if a kid may be watching that.

If you allow people (not just theWolfman, even though I have seen this person do quite a lot of this stuff) to get away with even the smallest of rule breaking, they lose respect for that rule and think they can get away with it.

I don't care if it's only one line, people who say stuff should at least get a warning (and then if they don't stop after a couple of warning's ban them.

And I conclude this with, as Cat likes to say:

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I AM FOREVER FREE TO RANT!

Yes, I've seen him talk like that too, and thats the kind of issue this should be about. Not what this is raving about. It shouldn't even be a topic on the forums, it should be dealt with privately (between mods, or mods and whoever witnessed whoever says this suggestive stuff), anyway.

SilverDeni · **Joined:** Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:58 am **Posts:** 1929

Oh c'mon... I don't really know what's so annoying at this.. really it's called fun. I understand you get pissed off at small stuff.. anyone can get, you can't count the feelings each time you offense someone.. It's like you can't discuss tastes..
And these childish teases are stuff since the beggining of shoutbox.. ya know it's a chat but with rules no swearing etc bblaah blah blaaah... but.. you can't forbid the humour.. then the spirit of the sb would go away.. Yes I know I'm kinda off Topic.. but it's what I had to say...

And if there is an issue on these boxes you can simply hit on report to a Mod.. of course they won't be 24\7 online at everyone's service.. but they'll try (better said "we")...

SilverDeni · **Joined:** Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:58 am **Posts:** 1929

TheWOLFMAN (LCA) wrote:

Thanks sepp, you have humiliated me enough. I'll be off from Balto Source now, as I really can't talk with all these great people without feeling myself an idiot, because they will always think of those few words I said , when I was very tired.... There was nothing offensive and I'm sorry for what I did... Reading my posts afterwards feels horribele. My behaviour was so immature. One mistake and you will be punished for it for the rest of your life.... But that's how it is. Thanks for the great time here and goodbye. Wolfman out.

It's what I feared... and this seems to be the result to this discussion...

Axel_Silverwolf · **Joined:** Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:49 am **Posts:** 1068

Well here are my two dimes on this. If the whole thing has started already I wonder how much good I can do but anyway.....I'm gonna try and make it short and point-out the essentials. I can't say that Wolfman has been "an angel" as he stated but also no one deserved something like this, because this is somewhat of a "public execution". Like those before me said, this could have easily taken care of by PM-ing that person and telling them to quit it. He might have or might have not stopped, that I cannot say. But that's how I would have done it, if that person was my friend or not. If he would have started saying "oh you're not a mod and you can't tell me what to do" and all that stuff I would still have done my duty as a member. Because as Steet said some time ago that he wanted people to stop a fight or something bad from happening whoever it was.....just as long as it was done in a decent manner. Also if that member would have continued I would have reported him to a mod since that's what that button is for. How fast a moderator would have reacted isn't something I would care because I know everyone has a life beyond BaltoSource (don't we all) and I was sure that I have done my duty as a member of this site and I know that at some point that member would have been taken care of, whatever the method.

Also Sepp you stated that it was nothing private. Yeah I agree but the previous messages shouldn't be used for this because the previous messages should be like the past: good or bad, it should be forgotten. Something that happened in the past, no matter how long ago happened: 15 mins or 50 years should not happen. We should learn from our mistakes if we are rational beings as we consider ourselves to be. If it had some effects on your person that's what would have happened to you. Don't take it the wrong way but imagine everyone who has been on the SB and to which something similar to this happen to them, think of how many rant topics like this would have appeared. I mean things like that happened to me, not of a sexual nature, but heh anything can be as annoying if it is pointed at your person. (I'm not gonna go into that since there are some things I don't really want to bring up here) What I did was "show them" by any method that they made a mistake and then walk away from the SB, draw something, listen to music etc. anything to help loosen the pressure. I mean hey! Try punching something if you feel like it. It works...

Don't wanna go offtopic but yeah that's what would have been normal to do. Not showing everyone "HEY LOOK! THIS GUY IS AN IDIOT!" and etc etc, because basically that's what you did. We're not all perfect, we might have our bad sides but that's something we have to figure out ourselves and try to turn bad into good.

Again, this could have been dealt in another matter other than this. Sorry Sepp but I thought of better from you...

Axel_Silverwolf · **Joined:** Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:49 am **Posts:** 1068

BaltoSeppala wrote:

Axel, I understand what you are saying. However, if you observe the progress of that one discussion, you will see that I and even others tried to convince him at the moment to cease and desist. He wouldn't listen. As far as I am concerned, that was sufficient effort on my part or anyone else's. There was no need for PMs in that case. And really, I am not interested in wasting bandwidth in that exercise (nor was I that day).

Also, I wasn't doing this merely for me. Or just this specific incident. A careful reading of what I said will show that I was saying that I was upset about how this kind of stuff seems to happen a LOT in the shoutbox, especially lately, and not just to me. I used this as one specific example. This is not a coordinated, single-minded attack on Wolfman, no matter what a few others have said here. PFF. That's bull. However, wolfman was the troublemaker, and so he has to deal with that.

And let me state, in closing, that had he PMed me with the same kind of teasing and insensitivity (though, as I said, I am not gay, I can understand that gays would be upset by what he said, and I found his comments totally unacceptable), I certainly would have forwarded it to a moderator...privately.

This was an open forum. The general shoutbox. Others have used the open forum to prove a point here and elsewhere...and to single out individuals. I wonder how in the world it's different with me? Actually, I KNOW how it's different, but I won't be suckered (by others) into a flame war here in order to answer that statement. Not at all. They know the answers, and so do I.

Yes I understand....but the thing is the following: you shouldn't have reacted like this, posting your convo with Wolfman here. Where everyone can see. I don't think you get that yet. Since that's what everyone has been trying to point out.

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I've had enough!!! Totally enough of this!! Why are you referring to that gay-thing? I didn't say anything offensive about gays, I just said one of my friends is a gay and it's fine for me. I have nothing against gays and I have nothing against anyone else. Really, sepp, you are too straitlaced and you misunderstood me.

I'm not an angel, but no one is. It was a mistake. Do all mistakes deserve a public humiliation? I was like totally upset when I wrote my last post. Yes, I know, I did wrong... But you can't imagine how bad it felt to notice this topic.

Now, honestly, I'm not going anywhere. If this rant is enough to ban me, then do it. But I'm not leaving this site free-willingly.

I agree....public humiliation is painful

angryunicorn · **Joined:** Wed Dec 28, 2005 10:41 am **Posts:** 3023

If I may be ever-so-frank, I think it's safe to say that this topic has served no real purpose, and anything that should be dealt with now, should've been dealt with a long time ago.

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theWOLFMAN (LCA) (6 h) : But I can show you what my tonque can do, if you just give me a chance

theWOLFMAN (LCA) (6 h) : LOL, it's Swedish and means 'hello'

theWOLFMAN (LCA) (6 h) : Hejsan?

Diesel (LCA) (6 h) : Yeh a bit further down you spoke in tongues - what did you say

TheWOLFMAN, I've seen how you talk to YOUNG teenagers and even KIDS on this site, and putting it bluntly, its neither cool nor ACCEPTABLE. What made me angrier was that there were mods present (some time ago) when you were saying such...crap, rather, and none of them spoke to you about it cuz I'm guessing they're they're so-called buddy-buddy with you. I gathered as much anyway.

*I* don't get special treatment from mods, and neither should you. I don't care if you were "kidding," and I don't care how old Deisel appears to be, that kind of talk from a 19 year old in ANY country is not pleasant. If you should get banned from ANYTHING, it should be how you talk to children (which was what a topic like this SHOULD have been about -_-). Not how you mentioned your friend being gay, because that would be stupid.

And I hope a mod takes what I just said into consideration A LITTLE MORE this time, because that's the only beef I have with them.

UKthewhitewolf · **Posted:** Wed May 09, 2007 10:41 am

You know what, you're both kinda "in the wrong" with this one. TheWOLFMAN should'nt have said those things in the SB but you should'nt have posted a topic about it either Sepp, I understand you're upset about it but this should've been dealt with through PMs with the mods, we can't be online 24/7 just in case something happens, we have our own lives away from the computer but this would've been sorted out as soon as one of us came on an if you don't want to use the "report to moderator" button then you could've PMed whicheve mod you saw/see fit to deal with it. It was insensitive of theWOLFMAN to say those kind of things in the SB on a kids site but it was insensitive of you to make a topic about it (that you may or may not have known would hurt his feelings) for everyone to see.
I'm sure a mod will deal with this problem (I can't, I don't have time) and you should admit it was wrong to make this topic, theWOLFMAN has already apologized for saying it and you both have to admit that this has been blown completely out of proportion especially as this could've been over and done with by now without this topic and please don't see this as something against you Sepp coz you know it is'nt.

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