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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:27 pm |
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AmericanWolf_2-AM-BP wrote: Quote: Ya they're pretty seperated from us. Believe that they are another country or something. But I think the rest of Canada would go for it. I just don't like the taking away the passport laws thing. They're good as they are, I think. yeah i heard something recently about quebec wanting to secede. also, they are AWFUL drivers. we get some here occasionally, they obviously dont know any US laws. running red lights, cutting people off, jsut all around bad driving.  anyway, i want to go to canada, but in order to do so, i have to buy a passport for $80 USD. we shouldnt have to spend that. i think so anyway
Maybe not so much as that but I still like the law. It keeps people safe in my mind.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 8:49 pm |
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Many Canadian friends of mine hate an idea like the NAU. They're afraid that American politics would dominate and they would lose all their government benefits like free health care.
On the bright side on the NAU, the illegal immigration wouldn't be an issue anymore. 
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CarribbeanLady
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:01 pm |
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Gauntlet wrote: Many Canadian friends of mine hate an idea like the NAU. They're afraid that American politics would dominate and they would lose all their government benefits like free health care. On the bright side on the NAU, the illegal immigration wouldn't be an issue anymore. 
Thats true. I'm a bit worried about that too. I want to keep our health care and laws. I don't want to become another state of America. (no offence!  )
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AmericanWolf
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Post subject: Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:31 pm |
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dont worry. tehre is no chance of ALL of canada becoming a state  and i dont think that politics switch. no offense taken
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 11:22 am |
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AmericanWolf_2-AM-BP wrote: dont worry. tehre is no chance of ALL of canada becoming a state  and i dont think that politics switch. no offense taken
If, in a borderles NAU, Canada would retain its superior healthcare (and overall quality of living when compaired to the US), chances are the masses of poor US-citizens (about what, 40.000.000?) would become a bit envious - even rebelious. In the end, this would cause either massive internal migration (to Canada!) or enourmous social unrest and - one can only hope - a more social-secuirity oriented political scene in Washington.
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CarribbeanLady
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 11:24 am |
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Cogitor wrote: AmericanWolf_2-AM-BP wrote: dont worry. tehre is no chance of ALL of canada becoming a state  and i dont think that politics switch. no offense taken If, in a borderles NAU, Canada would retain its superior healthcare (and overall quality of living when compaired to the US), chances are the masses of poor US-citizens (about what, 40.000.000?) would become a bit envious - even rebelious. In the end, this would cause either massive internal migration (to Canada!) or enourmous social unrest and - one can only hope - a more social-secuirity oriented political scene in Washington.
True true. Its like if Florida became a part of Canada we'd all flock down there.  Wooo good health care, good weather and Disney World? 
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AmericanWolf
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 3:10 pm |
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i dont think you guys understand the concept of a regional Union... You dont become one country.  look at the european union, they are all part of it, but they each retian their individuality, They all use the Euro, but are all still seperate countries
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 3:59 pm |
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AmericanWolf_2-AM-BP wrote: i dont think you guys understand the concept of a regional Union... You dont become one country.  look at the european union, they are all part of it, but they each retian their individuality, They all use the Euro, but are all still seperate countries
Yes, but in Europe, the bariers that prevent citizens from moving around too much are much larger than in North America: even with a common citizenship (not the same as living in one country), EU inhabitants are still kept mostly within the confines of their onw country due to vast differences in culture and language. And social secuirity is common throughout the whole of (old) Europe.
This is not the case with Canada and the US: they have a shared language (if we, for the sake of argument, forget about French and Spanish-speaking minorities) and allmost insurmountable differences in social secuirity.
A monetary/customs union would probably be possible, however, though it would do little to change the rate of the 'North-American'-dollar: Canada's economy is too small compared to that of the US to influence the course of a common curency. Those poor Canadians would just be stuck with a weak dollar.
That said, you have a point: a (loose) NAU would, rationally speaking, be a possibility.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 6:39 pm |
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AmericanWolf_2-AM-BP wrote: :lol: is there something wrong with the US dollar? no offense taken
It's value has plummeted in the past years from being worth more than 1.10 euro (beginning of 2002; launching date of euro as currency) to less than 0.75 euro today. That's a +25 percent fluctuation in five years time - pretty steep if you ask me. This has been a negative trend for US-consumers (although positive for export).
The Canadian-dollar, on the other hand, has been doing the same as the euro: strengthening against the US-dollar.
These differences are of course only fleeting and likely to change in the comming years. They should not be a problem for a dedicated NAU - in theory.
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